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Recommendations on upgrading my VL

Started by Bettsy · 14 Feb 2016 · 20 replies

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BettsyArchived member
I recently purchased a VL S200 with a bolt on garrett turbo and no other mods. Im gonna have a bout $10,000+ to spend on the car and i just want some opinions on gearboxes, diffs and engine mods, cheers.
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SIrollerArchived member
have a read through the tech threads here. your question is really too broad. however heres what id do - rebuild brakes suspension and diff get everything working and original boom 10g gone. alternately if it was all mechanical i'd do a fresh engine rebuild and an r33 5 speed. then a t4 with 10psi ish
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MorgzArchived member
Choose what you want from the car and go from there. 10k basically says to me, you have enough for a cam and springs - standard bottom end, a cooler, exhaust, computer and a fuel system. The rest I'd spend on the gearbox and diff.
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Wkd_VlArchived member
motor wise. id go commetic head gasket. arp head studs. decent size cam. vavle springs.and the a6 motor is prepped to make close to 400rwkw all depending on fuel system. ecu. turbo etc
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Jet R31Archived member
id had this same talk with a customer last year. Stock 180wkw vlt convert and 10g to spend. i first told him to sell car, put it with the 10g and he could buy a really nice fast one already..but no he wanted to do up this one.. I told him to go buy a diff and a really good box first and then do motor next.. he said..well then ill get bored of it. I told him if he wanted to be a teenager with a broken down car getting towed all the time we can do that. (and he was 50yrs old..) We did that, turbo/computer /headgasket/headstuds/ cam springs/tune etc. Trans slipped on dyno as soon as it got to 210rwkw..he complained for all the money he spent he only got 20rwkw more, and it was laggier..lol Trans blew 2 weeks after on rd , then diff. He hardly ever drove it for 6 +months as he had to do whole driveline.. then made 270rwkw then 300rwkw.. Who would have thought.. offcourse i was a **** after all that..lol you can lead a horse to water but .....lmao cheers darren
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dougall83Archived member
Yeah mate 10k isn't a lot on a quick vl I spent 4K fuel system, 6k box , 2k on manifold and gate ect hard question really it would get u a tuff box and diff or bolt ons and like Darren said wreck all ya drive line it can be a vicious cycle
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Jet R31Archived member
and labour at 70-100p/hr if you cant do it....lol cheers darren
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ido09sArchived member
coming from the trade as well Jet R31 has the best advice so far I reckon. For $20k you could buy quite a nice VL with quite a bit of work done already and just get in it and enjoy it. $10k isn't going to get you a lot to be honest.
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3lturboArchived member
As above, sell it and buy something done mate. In the grand scheme of things 10k isn't a lot, and wont get far. A set of wheels and springs can be half of that, and then you might want to spend money tidying a few things up or on the motor.
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FLY-03LArchived member
Depends how far you want to go mate. Id say morgz has it spot on. Do a compression test first to make sure the motors still healthy PRO TIP: Decide your goal for power/money and buy all the parts ONCE to suit that setup Mines a hicomp t3 hi flow with a cam, upgraded fuel and ecu. 315hp and expected to do low-mid 12's. Good little setup... on boost by like 2300 revs -Hi comp, stage 2 cam ARP studs and a cometic gasket $800 parts -Turbo, gate, manifold, dump pipe $1000 if its stock t3 hi flow or $2000+ for custom -R33 box and good clutch. Up to $2000 if you need manual conversion -VL turbo diff, $1000 -044 pump, surge tank, 550 injectors and new rail $1000 once you buy all your fittings -Microtec installed and tuned $2000 -Cooler and piping, 3 inch exhaust, brakes, suspensions, reco'd cooling system?? Another 1000-2000 Thats 10k there. Can be done
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dougall83Archived member
I'm sure there was a thread on 11,s for 10k around wasn't there?
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deanoVLCTArchived member
Your wish is my command dougs http://www.calaisturbo.com.au/showthread.php?t=15681
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dougall83Archived member
Yeah Deano a lot of old threads but so handy bro, we just need the pics on main screen updated and my life would b complete hahaha
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Jet R31Archived member
Quote: Originally Posted by FLY-03L [View Post] Depends how far you want to go mate. Id say morgz has it spot on. Do a compression test first to make sure the motors still healthy PRO TIP: Decide your goal for power/money and buy all the parts ONCE to suit that setup Mines a hicomp t3 hi flow with a cam, upgraded fuel and ecu. 315hp and expected to do low-mid 12's. Good little setup... on boost by like 2300 revs -Hi comp, stage 2 cam ARP studs and a cometic gasket $800 parts -Turbo, gate, manifold, dump pipe $1000 if its stock t3 hi flow or $2000+ for custom -R33 box and good clutch. Up to $2000 if you need manual conversion -VL turbo diff, $1000 -044 pump, surge tank, 550 injectors and new rail $1000 once you buy all your fittings -Microtec installed and tuned $2000 -Cooler and piping, 3 inch exhaust, brakes, suspensions, reco'd cooling system?? Another 1000-2000 Thats 10k there. Can be done You are trippin...$550 for a cam, Be $800 with springs, nearly $400 for headstuds and $250 for headgasket... So thats $1450..not 800. Even if you get a regrind its still way over, then the rest of your list will do same..until its miles over... On top of that, get head faced..and check it over while it off..face ex manis, face intake mani Then on your list your missing $2g of gaskets/ hose and general miscellaneous items that will randomnly pop up.. Vl are the biggest buckets of ****..you can guarantee the car will have electrical faults..a ****ed loom and every rubber hose in engine will be ****ed..steering rack will piss out fluid if power steer..every ****ing power steer hose will be leaking like a mofo aswell And if person can't do labour well there 4 grand more without me thinking to hard.. So what are we at ..16g+... And i hope the thread starters 10g you have is not a loan...please dont get a loan to spend on a ****box..that will cost 2- 3 times that amount to make nice...and reliable.. Ive just spent 25G on parts for my berlina, its not finished ..theres no labour...theres lots of secondhand **** on it(diff/tailshaft/rear suspension/ex mani/iwastegate) intake mani/computer etc or cheap **** (turbo) and its nothing special, standard interior..standard exterior..standard brakes and i paid $1000 for it.. i could blow 40G on it without looking if i painted it and it still woudnt be anything great.. cheers darren
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3lturboArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by Jet R31 [View Post] You are trippin...$550 for a cam, Be $800 with springs, nearly $400 for headstuds and $250 for headgasket... So thats $1450..not 800. Even if you get a regrind its still way over, then the rest of your list will do same..until its miles over... On top of that, get head faced..and check it over while it off..face ex manis, face intake mani Then on your list your missing $2g of gaskets/ hose and general miscellaneous items that will randomnly pop up.. Vl are the biggest buckets of ****..you can guarantee the car will have electrical faults..a ****ed loom and every rubber hose in engine will be ****ed..steering rack will piss out fluid if power steer..every ****ing power steer hose will be leaking like a mofo aswell And if person can't do labour well there 4 grand more without me thinking to hard.. So what are we at ..16g+... And i hope the thread starters 10g you have is not a loan...please dont get a loan to spend on a ****box..that will cost 2- 3 times that amount to make nice...and reliable.. Ive just spent 25G on parts for my berlina, its not finished ..theres no labour...theres lots of secondhand **** on it(diff/tailshaft/rear suspension/ex mani/iwastegate) intake mani/computer etc or cheap **** (turbo) and its nothing special, standard interior..standard exterior..standard brakes and i paid $1000 for it.. i could blow 40G on it without looking if i painted it and it still woudnt be anything great.. cheers darren This man speaks the truth. That list would blow way out. Things are going to break, need replacing, and no doubt need re-doing. And if you're on a budget then this could be a problem
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FLY-03LArchived member
Yeah mate been a while since i did it all.. rough numbers. Mine was a just a wade regrind so no $550 cam. Head studs are on ebay for $300. Should have said a total of $1000. Ive done it slowly over the years so i guess you miss some of the smaller costs but they add up. Just parts not labour, ive done it all myself or had mates to help me with the more technical stuff. Although microtec is including labour for 2000 suply fit and tune. Im getting my diff re re done after i did it once to not do it again until i managed to crack a tooth on the crown wheel... 3.9s and a locker going in
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pigsyArchived member
if you can do it your self 10k will go far if you carnt don't bother 10k for me is a new stroker bottom end only and that's me building it
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MorgzArchived member
I never really got stroking an RB30 or 26 - it's not like the cranks are weak haha
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FLY-03LArchived member
strokers?? im pretty sure the dude just wants an upgraded turbo and fuel system lol
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pigsyArchived member
'l know that l did say that if he can do it his self 10k will go far other wise forget it and yer go the stroker l will need it
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