Without getting into the technicalities that a VL S2 doesn't really exist (there is no definable S1/S2 changeover, nor does holden even recognise seperate series of them until VP) you won't get what you're after. Why? These so-called series 2 headrests - I assume you people talking about the padded foam ones, same shape as the VH, instead of the open vynil see-through ones like VK. If so, they are part of the "industry seat" running change that occurred partway through the VL life (at completely different times to the cable vs rod shifter, and the chrome vs black doorhandles.. - commonly argued as S1 & S2 items).

meh... my cars still a s2 to me

I know you stole this comment from somewhere else - how about giving the real author credit for it Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by Dazza102 I know you stole this comment from somewhere else - how about giving the real author credit for it LOL ur a god... stolen from brockcommodores.com...I admit I stole it Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

hehehe - I should know I've got their forum link in my sig but yeah there was never a start of stop date for the interior change overs - for example the calais seats I purchased have a series 1 designed rear map pocket and pin spacing but also have the full head rest feature and buttons and the stripe designed door trims... but half the noodles here would just look at the head rests and door trims to see if its a series 1 or 2 hehehe Daz Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

series 1 and 2 N/A engine blocks are a bit different.

welll mine is may/june 88 so its almost a vn lol, probly had one right up its ass on the production line Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

so buy a few head rests and call it series 2, ok awesome.

Quote: Originally Posted by b1ancardi series 1 and 2 N/A engine blocks are a bit different. well as stated there is no series 1 and 2 at some point like everything thing else they changed the production and just used the one block

so OFFICIALLY, there is no series 1 or 2? But at some point, they changed a few things? weird, but meh

Exactly.

well, the ones after the changes I'm still gonna call a series 2, lol Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

ok true but we still call it S1 or S2 because there is a difference and it has to be recognised somehow, and by naming it S1 or S2 is easiest.

who gives a flying f uck

Of course you can call them S1 and S2, there is no law saying you cant

Quote: Originally Posted by mz_vl meh... my cars still a s2 to me yeah mine too

1: Auto shifter changed 2: Door handles changed 3: Interior changed and seat backs go to rounded backing, vn seat runners 4: Wiring changes in body harness and engine harness, no reverse polarity relay in s2 5: Low fuel light and water light in s2 calais 6: Turbo engine block used in S2 n/a Has plugged drain and water lines.

cluster changed also the list goes on

So this probably explains why we get the odd person looking for help trying to determine if their VL is an S1 or an S2 because of the mix-matched 'S1-S2' features in their cars.

It just makes it easier to identify what your talking about, using 'Series I or II' as way's to distinguish.