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R33 & R34 Boxes into VLT's
Started by pascal · 30 Aug 2005 · 335 repliesPreserved from CalaisTurbo (partial recovery). Original authors and dates are shown; archived members are not current Holdcom accounts.
21-01-10, 20:21 GMT+10#283
hey fella's i got another question.......... The 2 plugs on the R33 box what do they connect to if iv gone from auto to manual?
Cheers Scotty
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21-01-10, 21:07 GMT+10#284
out of interest if you were to put an rb25det in a vl,then hook the 25s g/box up how much would you expect to pay,fully fitted?
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23-01-10, 06:30 GMT+10#285
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Originally Posted by VNCPTR
hey fella's i got another question.......... The 2 plugs on the R33 box what do they connect to if iv gone from auto to manual?
Cheers Scotty
one is the neutral safety switch, and one is for the reverse lights. Not sure which one is which tho. When i was wiring mine up, I checked the gearbox into reverse, and just played around with the wires (there should only be two sets of two going under the car) until the reverse lights lit up. Too easy.
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Originally Posted by 3lturbo
out of interest if you were to put an rb25det in a vl,then hook the 25s g/box up how much would you expect to pay,fully fitted?
it is a fair bit of work, but if you have a bit of mechanical knowledge you can do it yourself. I have done my conversion with the help of a few mates and it was fairly straight forward. Before attempting this project the only thing I had ever done on my car was an oil change!
There are a lot of things to consider that will affect the final cost;are you going to run an aftermarket intercooler, what sort of computer etc. I could go on, but don't wanna clog up the thread. Feel free to send me a PM with any questions and I'll do my best to help ya out.
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23-01-10, 11:29 GMT+10#286
Cheers NZ GTS, got other question im not too sure on.
I got a Master Cylinder off ebay, iv put it in the car and connected the pedal to it, (i havent yet connected the clutch line yet) but i was wondering should the pedal still be down on the floor and stay there or should it come back up after pushing it down?
I push mine down ans it stay's there, will that change once if put fluid in and pump the pedal to build pressure up and then blead it?
Iv got a feeling that its no good as my skyline master cylinder works and when i push it in it comes stright back out, and thats not in a car either.
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23-01-10, 21:59 GMT+10#287
I think what's happening is that when you push the pedal down, it moves the pushrod and some of the rubber seals inside the master cylinder, and, because there is no fluid in it (no pressure from the clutch itself to push it back) it's just getting stuck.
once it's all put together and got fluid in it and bled up properly it should be fine. have you got the return spring hooked up to the pedal as well?
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24-01-10, 10:38 GMT+10#288
Cheers Bro..... ill go check that now hahah knowing me iv prob forgot to put that back on lol :P
Edit: Yer iv put the return spring on, so im guessin it is what you said madrx3boy.......
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25-01-10, 10:55 GMT+10#289
I was just reading throught this and i saw that someone wrote that you cannot use MF5 speedo sender in MX7? I did and mine is fine?
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23-04-10, 17:12 GMT+10#290
where are ppl getting tailshafts from? ppl jst using the mx7 straight bolts up? or ppl getting an mf5 and changing the slip yoke to the r33 yoke? or ppl getting new ones made up? how much am i looking at and where can i get one?
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23-04-10, 23:01 GMT+10#291
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where are ppl getting tailshafts from? ppl jst using the mx7 straight bolts up? or ppl getting an mf5 and changing the slip yoke to the r33 yoke? or ppl getting new ones made up? how much am i looking at and where can i get one?
I have a heavy duty one from Hardy Spicer, can't tell you too much, it came with the diff... It was originally set up for an MX7 though, slots straight into the R34 box.
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24-04-10, 13:59 GMT+10#292
I would use a MF5 tailshaft with a Hardy Spicer yoke for a basic setup.
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24-04-10, 17:30 GMT+10#293
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Originally Posted by MB_Boy
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where are ppl getting tailshafts from? ppl jst using the mx7 straight bolts up? or ppl getting an mf5 and changing the slip yoke to the r33 yoke? or ppl getting new ones made up? how much am i looking at and where can i get one?
MF5 tailshaft with R33/MX7 yoke from hardy spicer is the easiest option, MX7 tailshafts are hard to come by.
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26-04-10, 16:11 GMT+10#294
thanks for your replies. ive just come across an mx7 tailshaft cheap should be helpful information for anyone in the same boat.
Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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26-04-10, 22:03 GMT+10#295
just did the conversion from MX7 - R33 5spd the other week , big thanks to my good mate rod (gemguy) for helping out , was a smooth and easy procedure and recomend it to anyone
was an easy conversion , ill give a quick run down of the items used just to help out you guys that are thinking of giving it a shot :
9.5 N/A vl flywheel ( heavy duty cushion button clutch )
N/A starter / sandwich plate
R33 5spd box
R33 shifter
R33 slave cylinder , had to customise one of the clutch lines
MX7 spedo
MX7 tailshaft
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18-06-10, 23:35 GMT+10#296
Hey, ok i have just bought a rb25det engine and box!
I needed the yoke, so they got me the whole tailshaft! it says R34 on it, didn't see this until later, question, can i use the whole r34 tailshaft in the vl, will it fit/boltup! or do i just get the yoke and put it on the mf5 shaft?
The r34 tailshaft is a "beefy" piece, a lot bigger than the vl one! but it doesn't have the centre support to attach to the under side of car!
Thanks!
Also do i need to swap over the engine to box supports with the vl ones(shorter)
as the r33 ones are bigger and it's just touching the steering rack!
Thanks heaps!
Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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19-09-10, 19:38 GMT+10#297
Hey guys, finished my conversion the other w/e from auto to R33 gtst 5 speed,
Parts I used were:
R33 flywheel, Sandwich plate, clutch and clutch plate
R33 clutch fork, bearing carrier and T/O bearing
R33 GTST Box
R33 Shifter ( needs to be bent forward a bit with oxy torch )
R33 Slave cylinder
Custom clutch line
Auto starter motor
Auto alloy support brackets ( bolted straight up )
Narvara speedo pinion 32702-02G17
Not sure which tailshaft I have, came with the box, its either the MX7 or MF5 with hardy spicer yoke
MX7 crossmember
All in all was a fun conversion and well worth it, still need to hook up my reverse and neutral sensor.
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19-09-10, 20:16 GMT+10#299
Yeah put the manual spigot bush in there,
For anyone interested my gearbox took about 3.5L of oil till it started to come out of the filler hole
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29-01-12, 19:53 GMT+10#300
I have just got the R33 box and got nearly all my conversion components together. Are there any seals/gaskets on the R33 box that can be done before I put the box in?
I am going from N/A Auto to R33.
R33 gearbox
pedal box
manual gearbox mount
manual centre console
R33 quickshifter
VLT clutch master cylinder
R33 slave cylinder and clutch line
90 deg. speedo drive
MX7 Yoke
9.5inch flywheel
factory gearknob
manual floor plate.
Manual spigot
I still need the rubber boot for shifter and the clutch itself.
As the car is NA auto the starter should be OK.
Can anyone think what else I am missing?
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