Why are people saying do not modify it or keep it standard? Are people thinking there will be a significant return on investment holding onto an original VL? I would not be holding back on your dream mods for the sake of a few grand investment return on a car. There are better investments options if your into making money if that's the case.

Quote: Originally Posted by Turismo [View Post] Safety first, put a good security system in place Your between a rock and a hard place as when you mod it you will louse you originality and my hard on will go away Remove drive line Mate first and source another box and engine and build and drop that in. This will cost you stuff all (few Hundred) as you would have to remove the original gear any way. The money you save by keeping the original numbers driveline will be money will be money in the bank. (if you go to sell). kid of like a Pre-nup And I know a lot of people will say they will never sell up but if thats the case its even more wise to do this as it will double or triple in value. way I see it. Nice vl sounds like its in good hands. I may upset a fair few people saying this but You have the safety first thing right but maybe in the form of a 6point cage. Putting the factory drive line to the side Is a waste of time if your going to mini tub it and 4 link it. I know at some point in your life being a vl owner you have always wanted to do it so why not. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by RB-30-ET [View Post] Why are people saying do not modify it or keep it standard? Are people thinking there will be a significant return on investment holding onto an original VL? I would not be holding back on your dream mods for the sake of a few grand investment return on a car. There are better investments options if your into making money if that's the case. Driveability wise he should think about what he wants to do with the car. I've done quite a few mods to mine, I'm now at the point where the car is quite difficult to drive (Twin plate clutch with lightened flywheel) in traffic etc. Personally if I knew what I do now. I would have had my engine re built with strong internals, maybe a slightly different cam, high flow then nothing else....just a nice quick cruiser.

Quote: Originally Posted by RB-30-ET [View Post] Why are people saying do not modify it or keep it standard? Are people thinking there will be a significant return on investment holding onto an original VL? I would not be holding back on your dream mods for the sake of a few grand investment return on a car. There are better investments options if your into making money if that's the case. No one buys VLs to make money.. I'd say it's a case of don't destroy what is fairly rare now for a VL Factory Calais, factory turbo, and mint, original condition As it is, a car that can be enjoyed and yet still look the part, and be legal. No mechanical headaches or being on the verge of undrivable Cages and tubs etc just ruin it's potential to ever be enjoyed as a cruiser again, and if there is ever a time to sell, buyers generally look for clean, stock examples, not semi- drag cars My 2c worth

Quote: Originally Posted by silverRB [View Post] Driveability wise he should think about what he wants to do with the car. I've done quite a few mods to mine, I'm now at the point where the car is quite difficult to drive (Twin plate clutch with lightened flywheel) in traffic etc. Personally if I knew what I do now. I would have had my engine re built with strong internals, maybe a slightly different cam, high flow then nothing else....just a nice quick cruiser. agree... plan your build around what you want from the car. There is no reason why a quick streeter cannot remain reliable and easy to drive. Plenty of examples of well built 400rwhp+ cruisers out there, just need to do things right. Personally I cant see the excitement of having a stock VL sitting in the garage hoping for it to go up in value.

Modified VL's are quite a love-hate thing! If you want to have something much less likely to piss you off at times keep it stock lol. But if you do want to mod it, I'd keep it simple. If you plan to do a fairly intense build I'd buy something that already has a cooler and exhaust or whatever, something that's already been altered so you don't feel bad.

Too much chit chat, not enough pics Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

This is a fair point! mods or no mods, we want pics!

Quote: Originally Posted by Turismo [View Post] Safety first, put a good security system in place Your between a rock and a hard place as when you mod it you will louse you originality and my hard on will go away Remove drive line Mate first and source another box and engine and build and drop that in. This will cost you stuff all (few Hundred) as you would have to remove the original gear any way. The money you save by keeping the original numbers driveline will be money will be money in the bank. (if you go to sell). kid of like a Pre-nup And I know a lot of people will say they will never sell up but if thats the case its even more wise to do this as it will double or triple in value. way I see it. Nice vl sounds like its in good hands. A car with a motor and driveline that has different k's to the body is not going to be worth that much at all. And as hard to find as an all original VLCT is, it will be a long time before it doubles, or triples in value and makes you a bit of coin. I really like the car, but the fact that it's all original (to me) just means you've got the best base for a cool project! Bring on the glide, motor, and more pics like MUS said! Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

[QUOTE=3lturbo;3050798]A car with a motor and driveline that has different k's to the body is not going to be worth that much at all. And as hard to find as an all original VLCT is, it will be a long time before it doubles, or triples in value and makes you a bit of coin. The cars that have sky rocketed are not that much older than vls are. (But small chips as cars are a slow growth, risky and give little in terms of return). Also in more modern times the internet gives the impression that they are every where. good chat

make this a massive sleeper low mount 35 40 internally gated have the dummy exhaust tip etc etc black front mount leave it looking exactly how it is externally with really only cooler piping in the place of the cross over pipe being the only difference

[QUOTE=Turismo;3050805] Quote: Originally Posted by 3lturbo [View Post] A car with a motor and driveline that has different k's to the body is not going to be worth that much at all. And as hard to find as an all original VLCT is, it will be a long time before it doubles, or triples in value and makes you a bit of coin. The cars that have sky rocketed are not that much older than vls are. (But small chips as cars are a slow growth, risky and give little in terms of return). Also in more modern times the internet gives the impression that they are every where. good chat All very true,But and it is a massive But! An original example in good/great condition is always sort after(and for good coin)Yes a modded one may go for good coin,But is it really that good with the amount that has been spent on it. Look at the comments on this car,And what the comment are for(For being a clean original car) Saying that his car and he can do as he see fit. Cheers Marty ps that was my 2 cents worth

Love the feedback guys but I'll explain what I think lol... I'll never sell this vehicle so I ain't looking to make money nor do I see it as a investment etc I understand original calais turbo's are very rare to come by these days especially ones that haven't been tampered with obviously but what I was thinking of doing was to keep the vehicle in its original condition on the exterior & interior but was to remove the standard motor and running gear and was to build a hamburger with the lot motor for it and to put a Trimatic behind it & enjoy driving the car with a heap of power while retaining the original look (obviously I would get a cooler made which wouldn't require any hole cutting into the body & If I ever wanted to go back to standard The original motor and trans would be right there for me to put back in! Thoughts guys? ---------- Post added 04-07-14 at 22:43 ---------- Quote: Originally Posted by RB-30-ET [View Post] agree... plan your build around what you want from the car. There is no reason why a quick streeter cannot remain reliable and easy to drive. Plenty of examples of well built 400rwhp+ cruisers out there, just need to do things right. Personally I cant see the excitement of having a stock VL sitting in the garage hoping for it to go up in value. I agree with you 100% ---------- Post added 04-07-14 at 23:39 ---------- New DBA T2 slotted discs were installed front & rear with new wheel bearings along side some bendix Heavyduty pads all round. i thought id spice up the interior while still keeping the original look with a Genuine Walkinshaw steering wheel but i will obviously keep the standard wheel as a spare! The calais also recieved a set of kingsprings Low's all round! Pics below.. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Me for my car I enjoy it as it is.But as you say what would be the point of owning a car that you do not enjoy.If you can turn it back to as she should be, Go with it and enjoy. Cheers Marty ps thought was an HDT steering wheel from the VL GPA with a different horn pad should be the the Ghibli with V36 on the back(unsure for the code for the walky)

Luv the steering wheel bud. Are you keeping the mud flaps on it for the sleeper look as well?

if you want a good investment buy a house! as said do what you want with it mate. You didn't buy this from Clifton hill did you buy any chance?

Quote: Originally Posted by jetsonrac [View Post] Luv the steering wheel bud. Are you keeping the mud flaps on it for the sleeper look as well? Yeah champ most likely will be keeping it all original for now The interior is already pretty immac but i was wondering if anybody has any good tips on how to clean the cloth material so it looks near new?> has anybody tried steam cleaning the cloth ?> Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by LTS_JET [View Post] Yeah champ most likely will be keeping it all original for now The interior is already pretty immac but i was wondering if anybody has any good tips on how to clean the cloth material so it looks near new?> has anybody tried steam cleaning the cloth ?> Use Mothers fabric cleaner,With a white cloth.Change cloth as it gets dirty. The fabric on the VLs is synthetic and cleans quite well as it does not absorb into the fibres.Will come up as new. Cheers Marty ps do not use a steam device as it will harm the material Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by Katsa [View Post] if you want a good investment buy a house! as said do what you want with it mate. You didn't buy this from Clifton hill did you buy any chance? Nah champ it was from mcleod! ---------- Post added 06-07-14 at 08:37 ---------- Quote: Originally Posted by ss nut [View Post] Use Mothers fabric cleaner,With a white cloth.Change cloth as it gets dirty. The fabric on the VLs is synthetic and cleans quite well as it does not absorb into the fibres.Will come up as new. Cheers Marty ps do not use a steam device as it will harm the material Sweet ill give the Mothers fab cleaner ago Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Congrats on a mint calais turbo man keep it stock and buy yourself some vx gts wheels again. That will top it off on that colour Some original photos have not been recovered yet.