Quote: Originally Posted by TheChad [View Post] Why are you restricting your decisions to an old model (and used) Garrett and an updated version of an old Garrett. There are better turbos out there now. (says the guy still using the 35r... but only because i'm a poor ****) Any recommendations? I was choosing between these two as they are proven turbos... Darren I was sure the 51r outperformed the normal 42r but could be wrong. Would def like to to know more there...

Where has temper being I heard he sold the car??

I'm starting to think down the "do it once" line and just digging deep and getting the 42x....seems like the 51r is pretty much forgotten about and people are selling them only to upgrade to 42x's Also anyone know the difference between the 4294 and the 4202????

Borgwarner all the way with the new billet wheels in a 76mm comp will smash garret to bits and cheap about $1650 for plain bearing and **** there good at the workshop i go to there swaping over to these and the power is crazy When i change me 42 over it will be a borgwarner for sure

Quote: Originally Posted by madrex [View Post] Borgwarner all the way with the new billet wheels in a 76mm comp will smash garret to bits and cheap about $1650 for plain bearing and **** there good at the workshop i go to there swaping over to these and the power is crazy When i change me 42 over it will be a borgwarner for sure More info please. Do they come in ball bearing? Edit: just read up about them...think ill stick to the garretts Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by 251NFL [View Post] I'm starting to think down the "do it once" line and just digging deep and getting the 42x....seems like the 51r is pretty much forgotten about and people are selling them only to upgrade to 42x's Also anyone know the difference between the 4294 and the 4202???? 68-70mm comp wheel versus 74.3mm..i had a T6 .91 frame 4294, was a good strong street turbo With Gt4202 vs T51R i could be totally incorrect, but i thought the only good thing about the T51 is the ability to fit a big size turbo in a small spot as they are a smaller frame. they have a bigger 76mm comp, but a older TA exhaust wheel. I think the TA exhaust wheel spools quicker but flows less, so perhaps the 4202 makes more as it has less backpressure, and thats the killer of power (if it does..) **** knows lol Borgwarner batmowheel would be good..havn't they got a newer one again?, think i saw it on yellowbullet.com cheers darren

Great read this. So many queries I have had about these turbos being discussed and answered thanks guys Darren seems like t51r is older age technology...however if u look at brand new pricing the 51r is quiet a lot more than a 42x

Year darren the batmo wheel are the ones where using they are awsome come on earlyer and power is crazy the two guys using them i no reakon the power diff in the cars is like chalk and cheese feel way stronger both went from a garret gt42 and gt47 to same sizes in borgwarners with the batmo wheels and in plain bearing awsome bit off gear

i know i had a t51r on my old vl turbo ramped up to nearly 720rwhp on 39 psi with 1.06 rear on it and it came on boost at 3200rpm so it was a nice turbo but i would love to see how it will do on my 6L now lol and the above details where on a single cam too Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by ITG-05Z [View Post] i know i had a t51r on my old vl turbo ramped up to nearly 720rwhp on 39 psi with 1.06 rear on it and it came on boost at 3200rpm so it was a nice turbo but i would love to see how it will do on my 6L now lol and the above details where on a single cam too Nice!! Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

T51R will make the power you want on a single cam i went 9.1 down the quarter with it and wheel spinning was an issue...... it had an 8 in it but i packed it up

I'm only chasing high 9s and 600 ish rwhp...did u find the 51r laggy? The one I'm looking at has .86rear

i had the 1.06 rear and start spooling at 3200rpm on a two speed powerglide was on full boost in about 500rpm i reckon a smaller rear should come on lower and would work a treat in a street car.... it wasnt that bad for lag and high 9s you will knock that over easy

I have a t400 with 5000 stall...really am back to being confused hearing some good things about the 51r

i had the glide with a 3200 stall on it

You could also look at Billet 76 GTS and Precision 7675 or 7682, all three of those are billet dual ceramic ball bearing and good for 1000hp+ with the right combo

Who stocks precision. Tried to find them but struggled

real street performance on ebay usa

Quote: Originally Posted by 251NFL [View Post] I'm only chasing high 9s and 600 ish rwhp...did u find the 51r laggy? The one I'm looking at has .86rear nothing wrong with a T51R..its a decent turbo, not a pos. some older age stuff is good, doesn't matter about the turbine wheel, it flows good air, and seems to spool quicker than the GT turbine by what i have been told HKS used the same turbine on there HKS T51R SPL and KAI..probally because it spooled nicer If you want high 9's why are you looking at very low to high 8 148-155mph turbo's?Thats a **** load of lag for no reason. You should be looking at 60-70mm comp wheel turbos( and down on the lower side)..how bought a precision 6766? I would have thought in a T4 frame it has enough snort for mid 9's still, or if you want high 9's PT 6262, bit more snort than a 3540 , or even a 3540 will scrape in 9.9's..lol then theres bog warmers, then theres FP turbos....lol cheers darren

U make a good point Darren, but I just want to have it there (the turbo) in case I want to go faster in the future...