yer that it need to get right behind these events we got with massive numbers n try n get more. wen u think about WHTBT1.88 u got a point if police were surveilling the burnouts for weeks y the hell didnt they step in asap n y would coppers just rock up n scare every1 off think theyd keep them as long as possible n get more evidence bcoz ill admit i went to these events bcoz nuthing else to do but i neva trust any driver no matter how good there swing the loops

Quote: Originally Posted by PROGMH I'll let this thread continue if it's kept on topic and not promoting street racing. The reality is that it wont ever completely stop. There will always be tools going to it, generally 18-21 year olds to do skids in front of their mates. Unfortunately 300 people turn up, stand right next to the car and then the guy with no experience runs everyone over and kills them. Most people have been to them on here but most have grown out of it too and realised how dangerous it is and also how much trouble they can get in to. I remember back in the Dandy days where the police did 6 months of surveilance and then hammered everyone for everything - it's not worth it. There needs to be more events and that is why everyone is campaigning for a new track. Support easternats, support all of your local shows. Don't leave them ripping it up and giving everyone a bad image. Keep it on topic guys. Please people keep this topic inline. When I first got my licence I to was a hero, now im all grown up and seen what happens and what will happen in the future im all in for doing the right thing and still maintaining what I love doing. Yes it is all revenue raising, every day you hand over money. Some of it is going to the goverment that is just how things are. No money flowing through the system no nothing for any of us. Its just life. Its always been like this. I cant slander police, one day I want to be one of them. Image Image Image now a days its all about image, its what gets though to people. Find the the right people, the right system and have the correct backing anything is possible. You cant keep going on about whats happened/happening, we all created the problem. 10 people can do the right thing, 100,000 people cannot.

Whether the police swooped immediately or waited for more evidence is irrelevant to the argument and it's a cop out trying to shift blame.

Will, Being bashed is different to freely walking down a dark alley with the possibility of meeting unsavoury characters. I too don't agree that they should wait to gather evidence but it's trying to shift the argument that idiots get on TV doing skids in clapped out VN's making everyone look like a caveman, to 'oh the police are so bad they didnt do this this and this'

thats is a very good call WHTBT1.88 all i know is ive gota put more thought into who i vote for now instead of voting for any1 bcoz our goverment does not like the car side thats for sure.

Quote: Originally Posted by ideatu i would enter for 150bukz for hole day at calder mayb could hire track out or sumthing n just go nuts. but the people at street events wouldnt enter becoz there cars cost that much n there not scared to bang them up alil. but y cant u just buy an old factory with plenty of room n just go for it like a skid pan n have sign enter at own risk. about a year an a half ago we ( Club Outrun ) hired out Calder park a few times for Drifting, had the track for around 8hours or so, but even with like 20 - 30 cars comin we still only just broke even, its not cheap to hire then you have to pay some one to sit at the gate an pay for the ambo guys an there cars, an insurence an so much more, to much bull **** to deal with, the thing with tryin to set up these types of days is you can put a post on the net with the idea an 100+ ppl will say yeah 100% ill be there ill tell my mates, but when the time comes to handing over cash for the day 70% dont pay up or dont put there name down. lots of ppl would pay 100+ to burn rubber an drift an what not for a day or 2, but then you will get all the fully sicks that will do it out side a macca's showin the little 15year old girls what mummys an daddys singel pegger can do..

^Unfortunately hoon bashing and hoon laws make voters vote too. I wish there was someone in parliament that was into drag racing! Good post, r_jackson

Bring back Jeff Kennet. R jackson you hav seen the problems faced first hand. Matter of intrest what did it cost? How does this compare with sandown? Its funny though, you try do things right and still get slandered. ie easternats. Ditch easternats and break it down over the year into seperate events. Idea?

can anybody link me to this video? was at work when it was on the campbell bust*

it wouldn't matter if "calder" was open every night of the year for free there would still be young ****heads out showing off in there cars with their mates nothing is going to change its just the way it is im sure most of you would know there was a big rally just recently to put pressure on the vic government to fund a new drag racing facility, the thing is drag racing although it can bring in large crowds it will never bring in $$$$$ as much as the likes of the grand prix and the tennis etc with all its glitz and glamour and big media attention world wide, i very much doubt if Melbourne will ever have a new 1/4 mile drag strip cos it all comes down to the dollar bills

This drag strip, is it for big name racing and/or street cars? The problem I face is drag racing becomes very repetitive, thats why im keen on a nats style event. So you can thrash you car around a track.

yer ud get ova going dwn track all time... need skid pan thats wet n u gota do circuit n stuff like that b realy good n improve driving skill yet still having fun at same time

you know what the problem is, calder dosnt even have the burnout pad anymore, no1 has anywhere to do anything anymore and if they do its big money to enter for which most of the crowd are tradies, students etc...with a very low income. the guy that was saying he loves the wastegates etc etc has a 350kw s15 so he wasnt just talking **** as i was there and the camera crew asked what he would like to see if they opened sumwhere up for us to do burnouts and why he loves it so much, also the way the police handled the situation was appaling, i was watching and when we came to leave once all the police swooped in the airwing lit us up, like we where getting raided like tony mokbel...then we just wanted to walk off coz we parked the car far away and the police dogs almost ripped us apart and the police where going to tear gas us because we wanted to leave which i believe is rediculous, they didnt let us go till they had our details just so they can fine us...and they say australia's a free country. now if you want to start a sh!t fight dont bother because i went there on my own responsibility, i wasnt forced to go and if something happend to me it would have been my own fault...but nothing did...so bad luck. my 2c.

Quote: Originally Posted by Cocopopz Bring back Jeff Kennet. R jackson you hav seen the problems faced first hand. Matter of intrest what did it cost? How does this compare with sandown? Its funny though, you try do things right and still get slandered. ie easternats. Ditch easternats and break it down over the year into seperate events. Idea? its was a while ago but it was around 5gish+ just to hire the track, plus a bond incase anyone ****ed the track or anything. but its the risk that is takin to fork out that much cash to book in a date to hire then hope you get the numbers to cover the cost. we lost one the 1st time we did it, but work got around on how much fun they had with how we ran the track so the next time we did it we made a little bit of cash not much but that all went on a free BBQ an soft drinks for the day. we did one or 2 more days after that but calder put the price up an didnt want to deal with drifting, so yeah.

How hard is it to organise Gymkahna type events for clubs? Even if you had a paddock on grass that you didn't care about etc. The mentality of 'not having somewhere to do skid and a drag race, so i'm forced to do it on the road' has to go. That mentality is the problem. As has been said in this thread, people grow up and realise that driving like a tosser all the time isn't cool. If you don't have anywhere to do it, get over it. Join a club, race karts, bikes, cars, speedway, rally.

[QUOTE=Bax]How hard is it to organise Gymkahna type events for clubs? Even if you had a paddock on grass that you didn't care about etc. [QUOTE] wouldn;t happen. liability, insurence, so on an so on. i dont think its the "building a track" part the gov dont like. its the liability an insurence they would have to pay. its a spots thats not so big. an anysport that dont get alot of TV time, just gets left in the dark well thats just what i think anyways.. but each to there own

Well, I'm just saying it's the kind of thing that happens here, we've got 4 hours at least out of our night to our nearest drag strip, and there seems to be a lot of people doing local events like that. Some are on bitumen, some are on gras and dirt. No idea how it gets organised, but it does - it couldn't be too hard to get people interested in that. Agreed though, liability and insurance have killed everything. Wrapping us in cotton wool won't solve problems. But, I think the general consensus is that people need to get out and organise more and fight more for what they want. Sitting around doing nothing at all isn't going to get anything done. Never has never will.

Quote: Originally Posted by Bax Well, I'm just saying it's the kind of thing that happens here, we've got 4 hours at least out of our night to our nearest drag strip, and there seems to be a lot of people doing local events like that. Some are on bitumen, some are on gras and dirt. No idea how it gets organised, but it does - it couldn't be too hard to get people interested in that. Agreed though, liability and insurance have killed everything. Wrapping us in cotton wool won't solve problems. But, I think the general consensus is that people need to get out and organise more and fight more for what they want. Sitting around doing nothing at all isn't going to get anything done. Never has never will. lots of ppl wanna do stuff but we just gotta wait for the guy that wins lotto haha.

Quote: Originally Posted by whtbt1.88 lots of people did stuff on monday night as well lol lol we want smart ppl with money. not fools with happy meals Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

its a phase that every young driver goes through its never gona stop, the same **** went for my dad when he was young, he got over it as he got older