1300kg?

Quote: Originally Posted by grko ^ i dont see why a vlct shouldn't pass its between 100 and 125kw and has 4 doors? IF its factory. That's clearly within there guidelines mate... My previous post is stright off the vicroads site, no bullshit, enough with these heroes who think they know it all, simply go on vicroads and read and understand what THE LAW states it also states that the car has to be classed to them as a family car, which a vl turbo is not classed as

Quote: Originally Posted by VL-EXEC it also states that the car has to be classed to them as a family car, which a vl turbo is not classed as i don't see why not, it doesn't have 2 seats? it has four doors etc... This is according to their rules? edit: aus800 i know, 150kw. but its per tonne, thus it passes

a vl is a family car... turbo or not.

Quote: Originally Posted by Morgz a vl is a family car... turbo or not. correct ! not a "sports" vehicle.

turbo or non turbo a vl to the majority of the people is not classed as a family car, dont get me wrong id love it if it was that way i could drive mine..

A family car has four doors. A sports vehicle has two. A vl commodore obviously has four and no matter what stereotype, no matter who says what, no matter about 'the majority of people' they fall into the "lower powered supercharged and turbocharged" category, along with having four doors. I'm only following the rules that have been stated on the vicroads site.

i no what your saying and i agree with you however looking at it from vic roads point of view, i doubt it will happen, however i am about to apply...

Quote: Originally Posted by pez_07 have herd alot of talk latley about the power to weight laws coming back in and some already saying there already in has anyone else herd anything and is it true? All i know is that if you got ur P's before june or july 2007 then you are under the power/weight restriction if you got p's after then you are under that restriction + restricted to drive any turbocharged or supercharged engines or any v8s at all...unless you get exceptions or u drive a turbo diesel.. correct me if i am wrong

We all new that

Quote: Originally Posted by grko A family car has four doors. A sports vehicle has two. A Family car isn't turbo, a Turbo'd car or a Supercharged car or even a V8 is a Performance car, Dont bother trying to fight vicroads based on the engine being in a Family Car the engine itself is Performance.. Why do you think Vicroads went as far as saying, P Platers cant do modifications to vehicles.. They knew if they were to allow vehicles that were forced induction people would alter performance by 2x/3x the amount. A Sports car doesn't have 2 doors its just more inclined too, ie. R32/R33/R34/A31 Cefiro, ALL 4door RB20/RB25's exact same as the 2door just has 2 extra doors.. So you think VicRoads will be dumb enough to say "Well its a 4door so its a Family car, Lets exempt it".

Quote: Originally Posted by NTONIO A Family car isn't turbo, a Turbo'd car or a Supercharged car or even a V8 is a Performance car, Dont bother trying to fight vicroads based on the engine being in a Family Car the engine itself is Performance.. Why do you think Vicroads went as far as saying, P Platers cant do modifications to vehicles.. They knew if they were to allow vehicles that were forced induction people would alter performance by 2x/3x the amount. A Sports car doesn't have 2 doors its just more inclined too, ie. R32/R33/R34/A31 Cefiro, ALL 4door RB20/RB25's exact same as the 2door just has 2 extra doors.. So you think VicRoads will be dumb enough to say "Well its a 4door so its a Family car, Lets exempt it". Yes mate, they will exempt it. One of my very close mates just got his exempted because it was following their guidelines. I know it's a performance car, but it falls into the "lower powered" category that's on their site. Research before you make comments like that. I'm talking from experience, as one of my closest mates just got exempted, and I'm talking of the law that is stated on their site. edited , talk like that not needed or helpful -aus880

How did he get the R32 exempted? If you have the experience thats fine, im sure everybody in Victoria would like to know the secret to getting 4door turbo cars exempted. From what is listed from Vicroads you can only be exempted by 2 Possible ways, and i cant see a R32 4door passing off on either of them, but you may know how its done so let us know Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

i was talking about vl turbos, and i have been this whole time :S

Quote: Originally Posted by NTONIO A Family car isn't turbo, a Turbo'd car or a Supercharged car or even a V8 is a Performance car, then why was the vp v8 commodore counted as australias quickest family sedan at the time? so in a period of 18 years a car magicaly changed from a 'family sedan' to a performance car..

media point of view... Quote: Originally Posted by grko i was talking about vl turbos, and i have been this whole time :S sorry to state the obvious but, your mate a green p plater who recieved there licence after july 2008, aplied for an exemption to drive a VL Turbo, he then recieved a letter back, allowing the exemption? If so can you tell me... Was it original turbo was it the original motor was it regested?

Quote: Originally Posted by VL-EXEC media point of view... sorry to state the obvious but, your mate a green p plater who recieved there licence after july 2008, aplied for an exemption to drive a VL Turbo, he then recieved a letter back, allowing the exemption? If so can you tell me... Was it original turbo was it the original motor was it regested? he was expempted yes, for his vl turbo. doesn't matter whether it was original turbo or original motor, they know its turbo and hes allowed to drive it. and yes, it was registered. Quote: Originally Posted by PSI-EFI then why was the vp v8 commodore counted as australias quickest family sedan at the time? so in a period of 18 years a car magicaly changed from a 'family sedan' to a performance car.. agreed Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

I Might try again first time i tryed my car want regoed Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by PSI-EFI then why was the vp v8 commodore counted as australias quickest family sedan at the time? so in a period of 18 years a car magicaly changed from a 'family sedan' to a performance car.. I understand what your saying, but from the Vicroads point of view put a V8 or turbo into any Chasis of vehicle and its no longer a family car, Its even documented along the lines, So the VP V8 may of been classed as a "Family Sedan" purely based on it being able to fit 5 people but i bet if you look thru the paper work there will be a few references to Sports model/car in there somewhere. VH SS Quote: Holden released the limited edition SS sports model in September 1982, provisioned with Holden's 4.2 litre�or optional 5.0 litre V8 VY Commodore Quote: Further improvements were made to the Generation III V8 engine to produce peak power of 235 kilowatts (315 hp) for sports variants VZ SV6 Quote: The new engines were mated to a new five-speed 5L40E automatic transmission on the luxury V6 variants, and a new six-speed Aisin AY6 manual transmission on the six-cylinder SV6 sports variant. VP Commodore Quote: The Commodore S was the cheapest sports variant of the VP Commodore range. The Commodore SS was the top of the line sports model of the VP Commodore range.

Quote: Originally Posted by NTONIO I understand what your saying, but from the Vicroads point of view put a V8 or turbo into any Chasis of vehicle and its no longer a family car, Its even documented along the lines, So the VP V8 may of been classed as a "Family Sedan" purely based on it being able to fit 5 people but i bet if you look thru the paper work there will be a few references to Sports model/car in there somewhere. VH SS VY Commodore VZ SV6 VP Commodore yeah thats fair enough.. BTW.. on the vp u got stated there, thats the s and ss pac.. meaning sports, if u get a bt1 exec 5litre, it's different.. end of the day, it's 4 lowsy years, buy a 6 and save up money for flux capacitors Some original photos have not been recovered yet.