Go to court unrepresented make a scene and show your utter disgust for having to take an unpaid day off work to attend the bullshyte case because some arogant pig harrassed & fined you on account of his inbuilt speed detector.
And then just for fun & games tell the judge that the satchell bag in your possesion on that day was empty & only contained residue and for that reason the $1800 cash that the PIG confiscated as suspected drug money should be returned...
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Originally Posted by h|ghland
thats pretty well all i need to know before going and talking to someone
not someone on their police soapdish telling me "im gone" and police have the ability to "expertly judge speed" if thats the case why dont they scratch radars on the side of the road and have them sit in the car and estimate speeds recorded.
HWP cops can be deemed experts at judging speeds
famously the expertise of one was challenged in court so he went outside and correctly judged the speed of an approaching car
judge then accepted he was an expert
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Originally Posted by zaksvl
if the fine is cheap, just pay it and be done with it.
bull**** man cause the next time u get ping its on your record
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Originally Posted by aus880
HWP cops can be deemed experts at judging speeds
famously the expertise of one was challenged in court so he went outside and correctly judged the speed of an approaching car
judge then accepted he was an expert
so he used the speed limit sign
that's a joke man maybe in a hillbilly court
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Originally Posted by sherif
Just spoke to a Friend who is a Police officer. He just told me thatthe best thing to do is elect to take it to court and get a copy of is evidence and when you get to court you can still plead guilty to the charge at no extra cost but plead guilty to a lessor speed, in which the Judge will give you a lessor penalty, IE. 70 in a 60 zone, there is no way you can claim you wern't speeding but 70 in a 60 is better charge than 90
best thing some one has said and its true have done it my self and it works wat speed was the other guy booked for
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Originally Posted by Antho
Now now, you shouldn't speed kiddies
l dont speed l fly
Aus880,
I suppose charging a person with stolen goods regardless of the facts is acceptable also?
Hell if they don't have a reciept of purchase then stuff em hey! Because we all know that apart from an inbuilt speed radar cops also have automatic lie detectors.
Dosn't matter if the item is now 8 years old and the reciept was thrown out once the warranty ran out, if they can't proove they bought it they are fair game huh lmao...
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Originally Posted by INMATE
Aus880,
I suppose charging a person with stolen goods regardless of the facts is acceptable also?
Hell if they don't have a reciept of purchase then stuff em hey! Because we all know that apart from an inbuilt speed radar cops also have automatic lie detectors.
Dosn't matter if the item is now 8 years old and the reciept was thrown out once the warranty ran out, if they can't proove they bought it they are fair game huh lmao...
yeh let's go right off topic
curry and beer...yum
Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
I got a ticket on a non-existant street (according to the ticket).
I can either a) get proof from the council that the street i was "alledgedly" breaking the law on doesnt exist and take it to court
or i can b) get over it and just pay the bloody thing.
I am more inclined to just pay the bloody thing. Mainly because
a) I might end up loosing in court anyway.
b) If I win, they will probably just re-issue the ticket with a different street name on it (that actually exists this time). and
c) in any case, this particular cop will probably have it in for me. Car will be marked as a vehicle of interest (hoon wise - don't think it doesn't happen) and I'll end up with more trouble than this ticket was ever worth.
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Originally Posted by InsaneVL
I got a ticket on a non-existant street (according to the ticket).
I can either a) get proof from the council that the street i was "alledgedly" breaking the law on doesnt exist and take it to court
or i can b) get over it and just pay the bloody thing.
I am more inclined to just pay the bloody thing. Mainly because
a) I might end up loosing in court anyway.
b) If I win, they will probably just re-issue the ticket with a different street name on it (that actually exists this time). and
c) in any case, this particular cop will probably have it in for me. Car will be marked as a vehicle of interest (hoon wise - don't think it doesn't happen) and I'll end up with more trouble than this ticket was ever worth.
I take it it was an on the spot fine and not mailed to yourself?
If it was mailed out then it's their word against yours and atm their word is incorrect.
I'd take it to court and fight it as you don't recall ever driving down that road and can't even find it in a map lol.
Even if it was a speed radar that photographed ya, you had reason to appeal it as you were worried someone had made a mistake OR someone else had driven your car without your consent. Either way you were concerned and had to sort it out...
However if it was an on the spot fine & you accepted it, you can take it to court and plead guilty with reasoning. This will give you the opportunity to stand up and tell the judge your side of the story before being fined. At this point you can mention the fact that you only appealed the fine as the wrong street name was written and you were concerned about this and any ramifications this may have in the future for yourself or the police department. The judge will more then likely be leniant as you are still taking responsibility and showing a positive attitude towards correcting the mistake and it also shows you have no ill will towards the police or court system. I garuntee the judge will either drop the fine or lower it considerably in your favour...
Either way you will be better off then paying it in full
Just think about what you say & how you say it. As for being targetted, not if you play your words smartly
Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
I think most people here are missing the point that he was actually speeding. It's pretty clear that he was from his story.
Only he knows how fast he really was going, if you were going that fast then man up, pay the fine and don't cry about it.
If you weren't going as fast as the copper said but were still breaking the speed limit then I suggest you go to court and do as sherif suggested and pleady guilty to a lessor speed.
Honesty is the best policy.
Facts here being, he was doing 75.
You were doing faster then that.
At very least you're going to get a fine at 80km/h. I think they just need to travel with you for 3-4 seconds or something to tell your speed.
If you were doing 90 or more take it on the chin, if you were doing much less, go to court and say you were doing the speed you were doing.
Pretty simple really, if you're guilty why do you need to fight these things.
