once its on the vic-roads website then we know its true. unless anyone has called up or gone into vic roads and confirmed it?

Quote: Originally Posted by LUVMTL bottom line when my turbz is up i will drive it licence or no licence i hate theese power laws , but face it there here to stay. so yer great attitude to have , when u wipe it off and someone elses car and you have no insurance to cover you mite learn thers a reason you cant drive a turbo and be cool infront of ur mates. hmm or maybe not?

Quote: Originally Posted by Calais_Nv i hate theese power laws , but face it there here to stay. so yer great attitude to have , when u wipe it off and someone elses car and you have no insurance to cover you mite learn thers a reason you cant drive a turbo and be cool infront of ur mates. hmm or maybe not? WTF does wipeing the car off have 2 do with this mate im a very coursious driver i jsut liek cruzeing and hanging out and checking each others cars out but these laws affect that yer also i have full comp so ????

if the laws change then about time as for the last few comments about insurance im pretty sure if ur driving a turbo car when your not ment to be (aka on P plates ect then if u smash into some 1 your in the wrong as your not ment to be driving that car anyway ???

yes very ture i have mine for theft and **** liek that ect

what calais nv was tryna say is that.. you could be a concious, fully grandma spec driver.. but all it takes is some ****head to go up ur ass.. and then once you try forward a claim, because your not meant to be driving the car, you will get ****ed over and cop it a style.. has happened b4

Quote: Originally Posted by tha don well according to that article the law has changed... based on what that article says there is no reason why we cannot now drive a vl turbo on our p's. however i will be going to vic roads on monday with the article for confirmation, will let you know what the story is. did you go to vic roads?

yer did anyone go to vic roads ???????? i just dont have time yer i thought about the insurence side of think my dad is coverd 2 and sisters fiance as they have been driveing it for me

i hope its true... cant wait to have the vlt on the prowl take a read of this article.. seems to back up the one above.. http://carsguide.news.com.au/site/bl...or_safer_cars/ (http://carsguide.news.com.au/site/blogs-and-stuff/story/p_plate_change_for_safer_cars/)

do use think you will be able 2 drive a supercharged vy calais

do use think you will be able 2 drive a supercharged vy calais

cant see them allowing vl turbos to be driven... Hope they do but, even though im off my p's id love to see more vl turbos on the road

I went to vic roads this afternoon, and talked to a guy who didn't have a clue about anything, surprise surprise. Basically he told me that yes there were changes being made to the law, and to wait untill something is on the website before doing anything that is against the standing law. Also, found these... http://www.carsales.com.au/news/2009...t-by-all-14497 (http://www.carsales.com.au/news/2009/volvo/government-praised-for-pplate-law-changes--but-not-by-all-14497) http://www.carsales.com.au/news/2009...rictions-14479 (http://www.carsales.com.au/news/2009/turbocharged-changes-to-vehicles-restrictions-14479) So just sit back and wait guys, there will be changes in the near future, but the technicalities are still being worked out... like I said wait for it to appear on the vic roads site.

im all for it (only reason i havnt got a turbo is because im on red P's but when reading this: "To balance the benefits of restricting high-powered vehicles and allowing P-platers to drive safe, moderately-powered cars, we're introducing changes to provide permits for some lower-performance turbocharged or supercharged cars with greater fuel-efficiency," A VLT isnt really fuel efficient, so why would it be allowed??? also states: The Minister didn't outline what qualifies as an appropriate 'fuel efficient' fuel consumption figure but did say the Mazda CX-7 with a combined economy figure of 11.5L/100km would be included in the exempt vehicle list. so i guess if a VLT got better fuel efficiency then 11.5L/100km it should be ok???

would anyone know an approximate date of when this would be introduced, or is a wait and see scenario? God i hope this happens, would be awesome!

i rekon it will be a waiting game no doubt. probly start seeing things in 2-3 months and then another few months before its introduced.

Quote: Originally Posted by PSI-EFI what calais nv was tryna say is that.. you could be a concious, fully grandma spec driver.. but all it takes is some ****head to go up ur ass.. and then once you try forward a claim, because your not meant to be driving the car, you will get ****ed over and cop it a style.. has happened b4 omg someone who understands , thanks you! very simple people you cant drive it so dont.

would i be able 2 drive a s2 r33 gtst if this law comes in?

check the power to weight ratio. go on redbook.com to get the specs

Guys, its all about the state level legislation and laws in the act. Anything on the vicroads website will be an interpretation. If they are going to revert back to the old 125kw/tonne and displacement/tonne rules then the legislation will say so. If the legislation has an ambiguous meaning in it, it can be interpreted in the eyes of the plaintiff. This is the case in case law ie: a vessel under an insurance contract is assumed to be a contained vessel, such as a hot water heater, but it can be interpreted as a sink that holds water. In the case where someone left the tap on in a plugged sink and the whole hose was flooded and ruined, it was interpreted that meaning of a vessel is something that holds a liquid - enclosed or open and thus the insurance paid out the damages. There is no law on vic roads and no law on CT. You must read and interpret the legislation - otherwise your just talking sh.it that does not apply and cannot be used in a case. If the legislation was to explicitly define that 125kw/tonne in a turbo car or under is acceptable as a P plater vehicle, and there was no emissions clause or year/model clause, then a VL, skyline, 200sx etc would be P plater legal again. Does anyone know which section and which act they are going to ammend? Chances are it will be enabled in the start of the financial year. Most laws that involve fines and revenue start 1st July of each year so they can bank the cash and account for it every financial year. From the sounds of it they may drop the power to 100kw/tonne and therefore squash all "high performance" turbo 4s and 6s. Its a BS peice of law in my view..... you can die in an excel or you can die in a 200sx. I would say its more dangerous to speed in a low performance car than a car built to perform. Some of these crap boxes shouldnt even leave the factory new.