Quote: Originally Posted by justinvlc from what i hear from people i know, if your mechanic wasn't so bodgy your motor would still be going, such as reusing head gaskets. What the F**k do you know!!! Bodgy..... Bash it up your A$$. reusing head gaskets..... WTF!!!! Get ya facts right before posting stupid comments. Quote: Originally Posted by PSI06 i reckon you will blow up more ls1's then rb's . goodluck anyway hope i am wrong . Only time will tell. Quote: Originally Posted by FATMAN LS1 vs RB26DETT P.S what is a PCM? i'm guessing it has something to do with the ECU, but i really have no idea. Cheers. PCM is the engines ECU. Yes I have done my homework on the setup.

People on this site are very one eyed...

Quote: Originally Posted by NZ EVLHSV People on this site are very one eyed... I agree!! I'll prove all the haters wrong!

i put a std 6ltr in my vlct with a 1100hp roller. dont run over 15psi cause the block will want to split in half.. i have gone a cast iron block now full forged so it can handle some power and boost, but also upgraded to a 88mm 1500hp roller..and a glide its gettin out of hand now. i know of couple std ls1-ls2 motors that have failed around the 550--600rwkw mark running 14psi

550-600rwkw is a lot power for a standard block

Id go LS1 if i was to do my building time again. Brett, your setup and now johnny's setup is a well known build mate, but that alone, i don't know too many other setup's still alive and kicking. Id love to take any of you VL boys and girl's from a drive in Cameron's T51r turbo ed manaro, makes 580hp on 9psi... you'd shiit your pants and its just a stock Ls1 with valve springs. (has popped 4 times but only cos single 044 and camo drives the wheels off it) Now that power in a VL is something else.... Whitey

Haha what gets me is that due to a few motors back in the VTII range needing rebuilds, everyone has this tainted view of the LS1. It's as if people think that Holden/GM engineers noted the problem but didn't think to do anything about! Ignorance is bliss though, I guess. Car will be tough, richie...

Quote: Originally Posted by CHRGD6 Haha what gets me is that due to a few motors back in the VTII range needing rebuilds, everyone has this tainted view of the LS1. It's as if people think that Holden/GM engineers noted the problem but didn't think to do anything about! Ignorance is bliss though, I guess. Car will be tough, richie... was gonna say the same myself...

Quote: Originally Posted by CLNGMH Id go LS1 if i was to do my building time again. Brett, your setup and now johnny's setup is a well known build mate, but that alone, i don't know too many other setup's still alive and kicking. Id love to take any of you VL boys and girl's from a drive in Cameron's T51r turbo ed manaro, makes 580hp on 9psi... you'd shiit your pants and its just a stock Ls1 with valve springs. (has popped 4 times but only cos single 044 and camo drives the wheels off it) Now that power in a VL is something else.... Whitey Cammo's car was the car that converted me to LS1 turbo!!! its a f**ckn animal. And yeah Cammo rape's the **** out of it!!! He's a classic!!

a motor is only as good as its built. Rb's are fine if built properly. I turned a bearing in mine but the post moretom revealed the machinest did not do what he was paid for. and simple math can explain that a 5L turbo will make good power compared to a RB its over 50% more capacity. plus its spread over 8 cylinders so less stress on each cylinder. any motor making over 90-100hp per cylinder is going to need to be well built and looked after in the tuning department

richie if you don't mind me asking, how much is it costing to get the LS1 into the vl, then running? and why the hell is the term "RB" even being mentioned in here...if I wanted reliable 'turn key' power, I wouldn't even look twice at an RB motor Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by genki richie if you don't mind me asking, how much is it costing to get the LS1 into the vl, then running? and why the hell is the term "RB" even being mentioned in here...if I wanted reliable 'turn key' power, I wouldn't even look twice at an RB motor Well its costing me not that much really. it will be around 5 - 6 k mark inc motor and parts. My VL is not my everyday driver , my VL is my hobby car. I have 2 other cars. So 3 cars in total. I just want to start getting some enjoyment out of my VL as its done more K's on a tow truck then on the road when it was a 26/30. So when everyone asks, How much for this and that , I really dont give a F**k. Coz at the end of the day , if I blow it up , I'll build it stronger. You know why , coz I F**kn can. (http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00205200904081422.jpg) What the picture says......... Still waiting for my engine mounts...... , Should also have the box back next week. Then the fun begins... Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by richie$$ What the F**k do you know!!! Bodgy..... Bash it up your A$$. reusing head gaskets..... WTF!!!! Get ya facts right before posting stupid comments. Only time will tell. PCM is the engines ECU. Yes I have done my homework on the setup. l'm pigsy's close mate so my facts are rite ,and you did use the head gasket to many times, if you used a new 1, it wouldnt have stuffed your motor last time would it have now

Quote: Originally Posted by CLNGMH Id go LS1 if i was to do my building time again. Brett, your setup and now johnny's setup is a well known build mate, but that alone, i don't know too many other setup's still alive and kicking. Id love to take any of you VL boys and girl's from a drive in Cameron's T51r turbo ed manaro, makes 580hp on 9psi... you'd shiit your pants and its just a stock Ls1 with valve springs. (has popped 4 times but only cos single 044 and camo drives the wheels off it) Now that power in a VL is something else.... Whitey well i must be pretty lucky. but i claim a good tuner is the real reason. I have built 4 others over the years(two 30/25's qnd 2 straight 30's) and they are all still going today all making around 550 on the same dyno at dysons. all tuned by dyson. and machined by one machine shop. i have never popped an engine either ,just head gaskets in my early days on my own car. and camerons thing dosent reflect that kind of power that it is making, so must just be a dyno figure. sounds good though!! cant argue with the sound of a turbo v8.

Quote: So when everyone asks, How much for this and that , I really dont give a F**k. Coz at the end of the day , if I blow it up , I'll build it stronger. You know why , coz I F**kn can. hahahaha... with a quote like that, anyone would think u are auditioning for a role in the next Fast n Furious movie.. lol

Quote: Originally Posted by justinvlc l'm pigsy's close mate so my facts are rite ,and you did use the head gasket to many times, if you used a new 1, it wouldnt have stuffed your motor last time would it have now Sorry , you dont have the right facts. The motor was built by pigsy brother. The head gasket was never used twice. I did blow a head gasket, but it was replaced with a new one. Its better to ask me , then hear it from someone else. Quote: Originally Posted by exchaser hahahaha... with a quote like that, anyone would think u are auditioning for a role in the next Fast n Furious movie.. lol HAHAHA classic.All I need is NOS!! HAHAHA

lol you wouldnt wanna blow the welds on the intake man, especially using a motec system exhaust.. lol goodluck with the build... Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by exchaser lol you wouldnt wanna blow the welds on the intake man, especially using a motec system exhaust.. lol goodluck with the build... HAHAHA I was just about to order my Motec exhaust!!! hahaha Cheers man! Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by richie$$ Sorry , you dont have the right facts. The motor was built by pigsy brother. The head gasket was never used twice. I did blow a head gasket, but it was replaced with a new one. Its better to ask me , then hear it from someone else. HAHAHA classic.All I need is NOS!! HAHAHA fact is, i know it was pigsy's brother that built it and he was upset to hear about it blowing up, because it was one of the first rb30's he had done and he put alot of effort into it to make sure it was perfect.

how much for EFI to do an ls1 conversion in my GTR ? **** YEAH MAD **** be bringin that **** out on a friday noite...... chicka chicka yeah fake id fake id... nah good idea though i dont really understand why more people dont do it.