Quote: Originally Posted by R34NRG haha are you serious? $2800 - $350 = $2450 $2450/$70 (average workshop rate) = 35 hours to wire it up? if you think thats acceptable i suggest you change mechanics ASAP it should only be a few hours work to wire up an ECU Few hours work WHAT! maybe to make a patch cable. Its a least a 10hour+ full on job.

Quote: haha are you serious? $2800 - $350 = $2450 $2450/$70 (average workshop rate) = 35 hours to wire it up? if you think thats acceptable i suggest you change mechanics ASAP it should only be a few hours work to wire up an ECU I'm guessing you've never wired an ecu then? It depends on whats included with the ECU. If it's plug n play, yea a few hours should do it. If it's a 'flying lead' from the ecu, you either have to splice it into the existing loom or fit off new plugs to each sensor/injector/valve. There is at least 2 days work to go this way.

i just got ems in my vl for a 25 cost me under 2500 drive away.comp was 1245 labour was 539 wire up 7 hr. and 700 for dyno time 5 hr

I was told once that a VT esec cost holden around 800 bucks to make. why not sell them for 800 bucks then? where would all the money come from to develop the next car and next car..

cost holden 800 bucks to make ?? LOL the wheels and tyres brand new alone on a car would cost that..... I know what you're are trying to point out... but slightly exagerated...

tuning is 1 of the most important things on your car... If you go to the trouble of fitting a 35/40 for e.g and just run it off the stock vlt ecu theres no point.. save some cash and buy a good ecu.. at the end of the day we cant really tell the ecu market to lower there prices as they need to make money aswell.. thats just my opinion.