Quote: Originally Posted by genki anything thats good on fuel.... there done What does that mean? Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

If your gonna lease a car your best bet would be to look at resale value. Have a look at the VW range they have a very good resale and the build quality can't be beaten. Have a look at the diesels too they really impress.

mazda 3 are hell noisy in the front end subaru rs are hell gutless mates mrs has got the new xr model focus and its great and the new lancer is quite nice aswell

My old duck has a mazda 3, awsome car, comfortable good on fuel and still goes well, I think they look pretty good aswell. My old man has a subaru liberty, bout 2 years old, heap of sh1t, nothing but problems, uses nearly 4 liters of oil between services, Subaru say that is normal and is ok, gutless, revs too hard all the time, small and un comfortable. When the old girl was getting her car, they looked at the focus aswell, they were going to get one but apparently they were not as comfortable, the front seats were just like boards, Im not sure though that could have just been the base model, she ended up with the sp23, great car.

Quote: Originally Posted by 88 Chaser My old duck has a mazda 3, awsome car, comfortable good on fuel and still goes well, I think they look pretty good aswell. My old man has a subaru liberty, bout 2 years old, heap of sh1t, nothing but problems, uses nearly 4 liters of oil between services, Subaru say that is normal and is ok, gutless, revs too hard all the time, small and un comfortable. When the old girl was getting her car, they looked at the focus aswell, they were going to get one but apparently they were not as comfortable, the front seats were just like boards, Im not sure though that could have just been the base model, she ended up with the sp23, great car. what motor is your dads liberty? the 2.0 or 2.5? if its using a ****load of oil, push for a rebuild, or short motor before it gets out of warranty, kuz they charge an arm and leg! if the dealer wont do anything about it, go straight to the head of subaru for the state. subaru are really cracking down on customer service atm, and im sure the head for your state would love to hear about this. but really push for a rebuild, and you should get it. we have had cars in at work 2 months out of warranty with ****ed motors get full warranty.

I have a 07 RS Subaru wagon. Its not a quick car, but its fantastic to drive, cheap on fuel, exelent in the wet, and i think look pritty kool. I would go a manaul... the auto feels a bit slugish in mine, but not to bad.

Quote: Originally Posted by JB90 what motor is your dads liberty? the 2.0 or 2.5? if its using a ****load of oil, push for a rebuild, or short motor before it gets out of warranty, kuz they charge an arm and leg! if the dealer wont do anything about it, go straight to the head of subaru for the state. subaru are really cracking down on customer service atm, and im sure the head for your state would love to hear about this. but really push for a rebuild, and you should get it. we have had cars in at work 2 months out of warranty with ****ed motors get full warranty. I think he wants it to blow up haha, its a company car, lets just say the company is not getting them again, the guy in Sydney that has one noticed the diff had dropped it oil out the front of his house, he rang them and told them to send a tow truck and a hire car they said it was up to him to get it there, he said fine if the tow truck isnt here in a hour, ill drive the thing the way it is too you as it is and you can fix all the problems I make on the way there. They got the tow truck there in half an hour. haha. They probably arent a bad car, it has done over 100,000 km's now.

Guys he said under 30grand and new, hardly any of the cars mentioned qualify! (xr5, MPS, ...). The pic of the 3 mentioned in the first post is the new Lancer. goodluck.

Quote: Originally Posted by BlackVL Guys he said under 30grand and new, hardly any of the cars mentioned qualify! (xr5, MPS, ...). The pic of the 3 mentioned in the first post is the new Lancer. goodluck. Quote: Originally Posted by vl_gigalo been looking at gettin a new car for less than 30k My short list of cars is the new mitsu lancer, mazda 3 sp23 & subaru impreza rs. Now i know none of these are commodores (i still have 2 vl"s) but i want to get peoples opinions of these cars who have driven them or owned one. I'm personally leanin towards the mitsu. It has heaps of standard stuff and i reckon the VRX looks "tough"..... ish. I think he may have mentioned a subaru, and a mazda 3

i work at a car aution place and sp23 is the pick of the bunch and im a mechanic and worked on them followed by the subaru which is nearly on a par and **** the lancer they are alot better than they were but resale value is never going to be as good as a sp23 or subaru parts are more expencive with a subaru but the lancer and mazda are ok im trying to get 1 for my old man i think there an great car and highly