richie,your wasting your time going bigger than an 81,youll never spool it,gas motorsport celica runs a 91mm wheel and thats a 6 sec car with loads of technology,the 81 will suit you just fine and will come on alot quicker.
either way good luck with what you decide to do i just dont want you to waste $$ for nothing.
out of curiosity how much is a billet gt47r?
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richie,your wasting your time going bigger than an 81,youll never spool it,gas motorsport celica runs a 91mm wheel and thats a 6 sec car with loads of technology,the 81 will suit you just fine and will come on alot quicker.
either way good luck with what you decide to do i just dont want you to waste $$ for nothing.
out of curiosity how much is a billet gt47r?
Mark at Billet turbo's has done a VL with a 100mm front blade. It comes on boost at 5700 rpm.I dont know if you guys have heard of it. its from sydney. and the turbo if massive , due to the bigger front comp cover. No doubt in time there will be photos of this car going around.
I have settled on a 88 front and a .86 rear. He has another client how has this same turbo on a 26/30. and yes it does boost up at 5200rpm.
Cost of the turbo.......... its one of those "if i tell ya , i'm going to have to kill ya prices!!! LOL"
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cant knock further development... should be even more of an animal once its all goin again. u'll have to bring it out one night with a few of us for some highway...
there's nothing wrong with ur mani now.. but dont be blind to the fact that they dont have the best reputation for longevity.. and i would put lots of money on the table right now to say that u would notice a very substantial increase in responce with a 6Boost manifold... no offence or anything.. dont take it the wrong way but i would never use one of those manifolds hey....
but.. at the end of the day.. u make the power. best of luck with it man..
Ollie
Year it�s not a cheap manifold guys.
It�s not a Chinese manifold.
I built this manifold.
I charge a fair bit more for my manifolds than others.
It is made from S40 (3.8mm thick) 316 stainless steel. It has a very progressive merged collector and reasonably short runners for its design.
It also has some very strong bracing built into it.
There are no power gains to be had from swapping this manifold.
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finally someone has corrected the mistake, i also know this manifold is not a cheap chinese thing because it is sitting in my garage at this very moment and i am the person who has put this whole car together, so i get very offended when people start putting this car down especially when they havn`t seen the car with their own eyes.
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I woudn't be looking at the boost response in your comp wheel choices
i would be looking at the boost you have to run to make those wheels effienct
I woudn't ever go past a Gt47-80mm for a street car on stock stroke.
But a 88mm would be the go for a drag car. Be really slow in street trim though on pump fuel i would imagine , good to see your doing something different though, its cool ,can't wait to see the finished product.
Is Mark Jacobsons gtr the car they fitted with the 88?
cheers
darren
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Originally Posted by MRFantasy
Year it�s not a cheap manifold guys.
It�s not a Chinese manifold.
I built this manifold.
I charge a fair bit more for my manifolds than others.
It is made from S40 (3.8mm thick) 316 stainless steel. It has a very progressive merged collector and reasonably short runners for its design.
It also has some very strong bracing built into it.
There are no power gains to be had from swapping this manifold.
sorry mate pics dont serve it justice it does look like a cheapo and l wasnot the only 1 who thought so
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finally someone has corrected the mistake, i also know this manifold is not a cheap chinese thing because it is sitting in my garage at this very moment and i am the person who has put this whole car together, so i get very offended when people start putting this car down especially when they havn`t seen the car with their own eyes.
l have but not since the twin conversion
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sorry mate pics dont serve it justice it does look like a cheapo and l wasnot the only 1 who thought so
l have but not since the twin conversion
Pigsy , alot has changed since you have seen my setup (2005 SOHC )...... And i am waiting to prove everyone here wrong saying that the turbo will not boost up!!! i cant wait to prove you all wrong!!!!
Also you can only see 1 of 6 runners...... how can you judge that........
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Only morons with no idea will tell you it won't boost up, In the whole wide world it's hardly a new idea to put a 88 on a 3.0 cyl.
It won't be good on pump fuel and it will need a good manifold design to hold
boost down anywhere near being able to run on it, and it will be very, very laggy, make awesome power on race fuel, to much for a untubbed rear end, thats for sure.
Sort of a catch 22 setup really, to much power for a untubbed rear end on race fuel and to laggy/no power under the curve on pump fuel for a street setup if supras are any indication. What fuel you going to run out on the M1?C16 , that last setup you had was awesome, can't believe you changed it, i would have just put some 280 cams in it
cheers
darren
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Originally Posted by Jet R31
Only morons with no idea will tell you it won't boost up, In the whole wide world it's hardly a new idea to put a 88 on a 3.0 cyl.
It won't be good on pump fuel and it will need a good manifold design to hold
boost down anywhere near being able to run on it, and it will be very, very laggy, make awesome power on race fuel, to much for a untubbed rear end, thats for sure.
Sort of a catch 22 setup really, to much power for a untubbed rear end on race fuel and to laggy/no power under the curve on pump fuel for a street setup if supras are any indication. What fuel you going to run out on the M1?C16 , that last setup you had was awesome, can't believe you changed it, i would have just put some 280 cams in it
cheers
darren
^^^^
You guys are missing the point. The T51r SPL BB was very very laggy aways.... it come on full boost at 5700rpm!!! this turbo will be on song at around 5200rpm. So how is this turbo ever going to effect anything in the way of driveablity from the last setup? if anything its going to be better!!! Everyone here is so use to GT42r's and To4z's etc. The bench mark is going to be moved now!!!
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yeah ill be using the 81mm billet wheel as well with my set up, as rob said i dont think it'll spool a 91mm wheel, though im only using a single cam head so its even harder for my set up.
aparently these new billet wheels are the bees knees!!!
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yeah ill be using the 81mm billet wheel as well with my set up, as rob said i dont think it'll spool a 91mm wheel, though im only using a single cam head so its even harder for my set up.
aparently these new billet wheels are the bees knees!!!
I am Running a 88mm Billet turbo!! and yes they are the bees knees, just ask Gas Motorsport!!!
if you goto there home page you will see a video of them making 1900HP and 2000+HP these are with Billet turbos!
mm ive been keen as to see some of the VL boys use a billet turbo in a serious setup.
i was looking into getting one around a GT35 size, but was told they dont come into their own until going over that size. my plans have changed and am looking at going somthign along the T04z size, so will be great to see the results you get richie!
if anything at least we know itl look fkn sexy
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mm ive been keen as to see some of the VL boys use a billet turbo in a serious setup.
i was looking into getting one around a GT35 size, but was told they dont come into their own until going over that size. my plans have changed and am looking at going somthign along the T04z size, so will be great to see the results you get richie!
if anything at least we know itl look fkn sexy
^^^^^
Cheers mate!!! yeah we lined it up again last night and we are going to have to do something about the bonnet. we think it may fit under if we cut a section of bonnet bracing. If not we are going to take it as it comes with the setup. If it has to stick out....... well it will stick out of the bonnet!!
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if i can recall they start at around $2300 (for GT35 size) and up
i think T04z size is around $2400?
initial price might seem a bit pricey but price increase vs size increase seems to be quite good!
your best bet is to either call or email Mr Turbo or kyle on these forums (6BOOST) and discuss your plans with them and theyl shoot you in the right direction in terms of turbo choice and prices
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haha
wow, with all this talk about "billet turbos"
its making me want one
also would it be safe to assume... (if ive missed the price if it was mentioned) that these billetturbos are decent "bang for your buck" when compared to the price of HKS items? because isnt a HKS T51R more than 4-5k?
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^^^^
You guys are missing the point. The T51r SPL BB was very very laggy aways.... it come on full boost at 5700rpm!!! this turbo will be on song at around 5200rpm. So how is this turbo ever going to effect anything in the way of driveablity from the last setup? if anything its going to be better!!! Everyone here is so use to GT42r's and To4z's etc. The bench mark is going to be moved now!!!
gt42? ha....
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^^^do it
lol
the more the merrier!
NO!
theres no reason my motor wudnt do low 10s, to high 9s... on paper
i think thats fast enuf... lol and ive only got a "crappy"/baby/small gt35/40 1.06rear
only reason id wanna get a big turbo is so i could go "abit quicker" and have something that sounds like a fk'n crazy jet, and the lag would be fun at times.... oh and to have bragging rights "i got so-and-so turbo" ;o
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