yeah they are a piece of piss to work on the VT stereo's. i went and spent $150 on some 6 inch 2 ways for the rear doors and some 6 inch splits for the front. both were vdo daytons, and pump out much better quality than the stock ones. the tweeters up the front are piss easy to get to and you can even use the L shaped metal holder with the new tweeters making install a breeze