Damn that is a good pickup from just the exhaust. Yeah I'm using the filter that came with the chrome housing, didn't think of looking for a lower profile one, will do that this week, thanks for that one. Yeah I think I will get the cold idle looked at. you say it sounds to be working as it should which I'm glad to hear, i just think that 1700rpm is a little high, I would think around 12-1300 would be ok. I'll look into it in the ellery book when I get home, see what it says it should be for an idea. Waiting a few minutes isn't too much hassle anyway.
How easy should it start too? Looks like a fairly new battery, new 8.8mm leads, seems to take a bit of cranking to start. Once warm it'll kick over pretty easy, but cold, or if it's been sitting for a bit it tries for about 20 seconds or so before reluctantly kicking over. Starter motor maybe? This is my first carby car in over 12 years so it could be me. First car was an '82 laser, it started ok, but only had 80k on it as well, the VL has 293.
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Originally Posted by Waughy
How easy should it start too? Looks like a fairly new battery, new 8.8mm leads, seems to take a bit of cranking to start. Once warm it'll kick over pretty easy, but cold, or if it's been sitting for a bit it tries for about 20 seconds or so before reluctantly kicking over.
Mechanical fuel pump will most likely be the cause of the extended cranking time to get it to fire.
My VH is the same.
I am led to believe that the Quaddy has a small fuel bowl and combined with the location of the pump near the bottom of the engine it takes awhile for the fuel to be pumped up to the carby and then for the carby to prime with fuel. Mine takes ages if it has been sitting around.
Electric fuel pump or put up with are the only two options that I am aware of...
TEMPA
Thanks. For now it can stay a put up with thing, it's not too bad or annoying, just wasn't sure if it was common, or bad for anything on the motor. I'm slowly picking up things here, this is good stuff guys. Cheers.
mechanical or electric pump (if both working properly) has no bearing on the time it takes for the car to start, the carb bowl is always full of petrol and when you press the accelerator it will squirt some fuel down the intake. How are you trying to start the car? I give mine 3, 1/2 throttle pumps then hold down the throttle about 1/8th and it starts up in a few seconds even after sitting for a while. If you try pump it a lot, it might be partially flooding the motor. if you dont give it enough pumps the engines not getting enough fuel to start. Welcome to the world of carby V8's hehe. But really if its tuned properly and set up right it should start no worries. Next time before you go to start it, take the air cleaner off and look down the carb. While looking down, pull on the acelecrator lever on the carb a couple of times, you should see small solid streams of fuel being ejected from the smaller carb throats. If the streams are broken up by air being ejected too, theres not enough fuel in the carb bowl. Whats happening there is the anti draw back valve in the fuel pump is on its way out, slowly letting the fuel in the carb to drain back out down the fuel lines, or down into the manifold. Then thats where a stuffed mech pump affects things. It sounds confusing but really simple once you get it. If it was starter motor related, the car would crank over real slow or make all sorts of funny noises.
I'll give the 3, 1/2 throttle pumps and hold on start try, that could be half my problem, not knowing the best technique. I tried checking the fuel going into the carb but didn't have enough light to see the first couple of pulls on the throttle lever. With a torch I think I'd wasted the fuel, there was still a bit of action on the driver's side at the front of the carb, nothing on the passenger, though it did look wet so I'd say I would have seen it if I had my torch in the first place. Will try again later after I've driven it. Also, what controls the under bonnet light? I found mine comes on once I put the parking lights on, but nothing seems to turn it off with the parkers, and headlights on. Pressing the bonnet switch does nothing, I know the switch works because the alarm runs off it. Also to check I popped the bonnet and had a look through the gap and can see the light is on. Didn't get under the car with the bonnet fully down as my back is giving me some grief so I can't get down just now.
Finally the pics:
How the engine bay is looking now
The damage caused by the filter cover
And my Captiva for the hell of it
Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
yeah see how you go my car has bigger cam, intake manifold etc etc so your car might need a slightly different way to get going but just experiment to see what works best. Nice engine bay by the way very clean for the kays and age of the car, the captiva doesnt look too bad either
Thanks. The bay isn't quite as clean as the pic makes out, but it's not very grubby either. Sort the oil leaks and it might stay cleaner. Going to try the sump plug and oil filter as they both look to be leaking, sump gasket will have to wait, isn't too bad as it is. Still gets quite wet underneath so there's something going on by the look of things, most likely rear main I'd say. Oh well, what's a 21 year old car on original engine and gearbox without a few leaks, Lol.
Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
those turbo captivas dose really well, take the air box off and build it up to about 2500rpm then back off (stalling it up in drive) and they give off a nice flutter :
Wasn't happy with the chrome air filter rubbing the liner and spreading dusty **** all over the filter cover, so the original is back on for now. The liner is actually in good nic bar the new rip. I'll look into a lower profile filter element if they exist, or may even go for one of the K&N items. The one I just pulled off is one of the supercheap items so most likely not designed specifically for the VL.
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those turbo captivas dose really well, take the air box off and build it up to about 2500rpm then back off (stalling it up in drive) and they give off a nice flutter :
Excuse my ignorance, never owned or had much to do with turbo cars in the past, but WTF does dose mean? Not sure I'll be trying it on the captiva, would be hard to explain why the turbo is stuffed after 1700k's should anything hapen.
