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Originally Posted by GLD-086
So um because they're faster, that means they're better?
I believe there's sh*tloads more to a engine, then how fast it can make a car go. If it wasn't for the 3800 having a fair amount of torque, no one would touch one, because lets face it, they weren't exactly a engineering masterpiece for their time. Atleast the RB30E was 20 years ahead of it's time, compared to every other engine Holden had used before. Although most VN owners only seem to care about their 15 second V6s, beating cars with smaller, less powerful engines. *shrugs*
It's almost as if they're too scared to race anything other then a N/A Auto VL Executive or Toyota Yaris.
look wot uve started lol. the commodore v6 isn't that bad, not any worse than the RB30 anyway. RB30 technology has been around since the 70s dude. i kno rb30s r the best cos were on a VL forum, but there r better engines out there.
way better engines
i love this.... i bet u my modified engine will beat a non modified engine kinda dumb isnt it?????
its a very sad day they are getting rid of the i6 motors,
Despite whats actually 'better', the Barra inline 6 does the job perfectly for the Falcon.
I wish that America would stop production of their V6s, and start using Australians inline sixes.
Future Mustang and Crown Victoria replacements will be on the next gen Falcon platform too, so all would have worked out well.
We could have seen a Mustang F6 Typhoon, haha, and damn that would have been awesome.
and just to let people know, Ford HAS confirmed that this V6 rumor is in fact true
All because Ford doesnt have the funds to upgrade the Barra to work in accordance to new emission laws.
Who is the in charge of emission laws in Australia anyway?
Whoever they are, I dont really like them, ....because they've just successfully laid off 600 Australian workers and given the work to America, deleted an iconic Australian engine, rendered an Australian engine factory as either useless or up for a total re-haul, and ruined a lot of street cred for an Australian car.
So whats really better for Australia?
ever so slightly less emissions for one of the least populated chunks of land in the world, or Aussie jobs/culture/industry?
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Originally Posted by ven33m
look wot uve started lol. the commodore v6 isn't that bad, not any worse than the RB30 anyway. RB30 technology has been around since the 70s dude. i kno rb30s r the best cos were on a VL forum, but there r better engines out there.
way better engines
I know the RB30 isn't the best mate.
They are awesome for their age though.
Just get sick, and tired of people with V6 Commodores bragging about how they can beat a N/A VL.
It's not that hard. N/A VLs are slow, and it doesn't prove SFA!!!
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Originally Posted by vlsl87
i hear Ford are getting rid of the in-line six and using a new V6 engine for there Falcons.
does that mean thats the end of XR Turbos or maybe a new twin turbo setup, one on each bank of cylinders.
My understanding is that this year is the last year for XR6 Turbo's anyway, as they are being replaced by the "Orion". The closure of the Geelong engine plant in 2010 had nothing to do with it.
I would've though the BA/BF range of XR6 Turbo's were a killer seller for Ford, but I guess some "suit" in the boardroom know's better...
well VL turbos were only around from 86-88 so it looks as though XR6 turbos will be gone soon also... 2002-???? when will production cease?
if it aint broke, dont fix it... i thought it would have been a better way to compete with Holden as having an alternative patterned six? ah well, looks like the XR6T will be the next cult car if they arent already
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Originally Posted by INFLYT
My understanding is that this year is the last year for XR6 Turbo's anyway, as they are being replaced by the "Orion". The closure of the Geelong engine plant in 2010 had nothing to do with it.
I would've though the BA/BF range of XR6 Turbo's were a killer seller for Ford, but I guess some "suit" in the boardroom know's better...
All my Ford fanboy mates are saying the XR6T will be around until the end of the Orion.
Orion is mean to disappear at about 2010/2011 to make way for the new global platform that Ford Australia is developing for the Falcon/Fairlane/Mustang/Crown Victoria replacment/Territory.
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Originally Posted by slepar
i can gurantee my vn manual wagon with a chip and a 2 and a half inch exhaust would beat any standard vl with the same mods they are more powerfull and i believe they run alot smoother and that doesnt mean im baggin vls i just know the v6s are quiker
LOL great to know, but where did that come from?
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Originally Posted by Sinister
its a good v6 thats replacing it too btw..
pretty sure its the same engines used in the noble cars (with two turbos)
Compare the torque figures from the i6 to the new v6, from memory (was researching this last week) the v6 made less torque with it's peak about 3000rpm higher?
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Originally Posted by ATMO_BT1
LOL great to know, but where did that come from?
Compare the torque figures from the i6 to the new v6, from memory (was researching this last week) the v6 made less torque with it's peak about 3000rpm higher?
yeah it def wont compare to a 4litre down low.. which personally is where i'd like all my power for a street car.
but at least itll have a much bigger top end, and of course lighter so wont be so front end heavy and might actually handle..id be interested to see the weight difference, would be pretty substantcial im guessing. plus being yank itll have a nice aftermarket..
either way, the I6 still has a few years and is def going to be a HUGE motor here in aus even when it becomes obsolete.
