Quote: Originally Posted by XTC16 I do, they're a piece of crap. Look back even 4 years ago at the resale value, VN's passing in much less for 2k, VL's were STILL fetching 4k ..... Headling falls out, door seals fall off all sorts of things .... they're just crap. i think not, my vn's heading lining has no sign of falling. door seals thats just wear and tear. vls on the other hand are prone to rust like they've been sitting at the bottom of the atlantic for 20years.

xtc16: you've got no idea what ur talking about ive seen alot of vl's some top notch some run down and i can tell u they have a lot more problems than the vn's just face it mate, they are a nice car but without care and maintainence they deteriorate very quickly just my 2c http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au...H&key=HOLD86BC (http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au/vehicle/comparespecs.php?key2=HOLD91CH&key=HOLD86BC) theres the link mate, vn's are still worth more just to prove u wrong and to stop running your mouth

vn's are **** end of story.

nah but u are

might be a tad of topic, but i went down to car city in rignwood, found a ****ty light brown VN with light brown partial leather intrior, looked ****e, 302,XXX km's for $4999 ??? :S

Quote: Originally Posted by luvbst xtc16: you've got no idea what ur talking about ive seen alot of vl's some top notch some run down and i can tell u they have a lot more problems than the vn's just face it mate, they are a nice car but without care and maintainence they deteriorate very quickly just my 2c http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au...H&key=HOLD86BC (http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au/vehicle/comparespecs.php?key2=HOLD91CH&key=HOLD86BC) theres the link mate, vn's are still worth more just to prove u wrong and to stop running your mouth I'm not talking about book value you tool, of course book value is going to be higher. Mate i looked and considered VN's when i was hunting for my first VL 6 years ago, at the time, VL's fetched more money and it was impossible to find a neat clean reasonably priced VN. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by XTC16 I'm not talking about book value you tool, of course book value is going to be higher. What are you refering to then? Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

VN's are poo, woo hoo, moo moo

Trev now come on.. dont be like that lol, your starting to sound like Mark Holden. lol.

xtc16: no need to get upset because your wrong ok

Ive had 2 vn's the quality is nowhere near as good as my vl. Vl anyday. Maybe he should try a vn forum. If theres any. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

rofl @ **** fight Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

All Holden's are crap. The VL rusts more than the other models, but they all fall apart faster than any jap car

You mean ALL cars rust and wear out, in the end. You tosser!

Quote: Originally Posted by dacolprt You mean ALL cars rust and wear out, in the end. You tosser! Get farked as5hole. Everyone on here knows the VL's rust more than most cars. I have one too

Yeah whatever ****head.

Take it to the wreckers put it out of it's misery ,your car would thank you for it....... Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

vl's are a nice car but they are known as the rust kings, there is no such thing a rust free vl

Looks like a job for Myth busters to me. My vl is rust free. Its easy to say that oh all vl's rust. Of course they fu5ken do. All cars will evently. If you live on the coast the salt air will cause it to happen more quickly. So if I have a vl it must have rust in it? So all those Walky owners must be pretty upset then?

My VL doesn't have any rust that I can find, how many blue and silver VN's do you see driving around with rusted roofs? the paint fades away to a nice shade of rust, I haven't seen that on too many VL's. VL's also don't rattle to pieces when you turn the key.