Quote: Originally Posted by ATMO_BT1 i care, at our age every dollar is hard earnt and to piss it away into spending hundreds of dollars per rwkw earned is outragous. I don't see how building a 14 sec n/a is rewarding, sure its a challenge, so is trying to build a reliable 12 sec street vl turbo and running it at our age, why not do that? To be different you say? If you wanted to be different why buy a vl? Out of the 2 (14 sec n/a or 12 sec turbo) i sure as hell know which one is going to be more fun and which will give a whole lot more back on resale. Power is power in the end, who cares how you get it, as long as it burys you in the seat enough to put a smile on your face then nothing else matters. All i know is a 14 sec n/a would never do that for me, nor most people on this forums. I'l keep on trudging on trying to build my streeter thankyou. But who says it isnt possible to get 12 seconds out of a N/A? Like you said if it burys you in the seat nothing else matters not even the cost. I would be more then happy if I ever got my N/A running in the 12s.That would put a huge smile on my face. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

yeah thats assuming it is even possible this side of 20k worth of engine work? If you can do it though, all the best to you! a 12 sec n/a would be insane especially manual. Personally i would rather strap on a turbo, get my 12 that way then save the rest for a house Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by ATMO_BT1 yeah thats assuming it is even possible this side of 20k worth of engine work? If you can do it though, all the best to you! a 12 sec n/a would be insane especially manual. Personally i would rather strap on a turbo, get my 12 that way then save the rest for a house I probably would never do it lol. I have a V8 set in my mind but a 12 N/A does sound quite insane, imagine what it would sound like though? If I was going to do it I would definately do it in a manual. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

yeah go a v8, even better than turbo Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

lol @ ATMO_BT1

You wouldnt need to touch the bottom end at all i'd imagine. It would be a matter of sorting out an induction system to force as much air in as possible and thats about it. cutting a hole in the bonnet or front end and running a straight pipe from TB straight to outside where it scoops in as much as the flowing air as possible be best. Exahust note Would probably sound pretty bad... but yeah Rover has the quickest N/A that I know of so far...

i would of thought if you were serious you would open her up and put higher comp pistons in though?

Quote: Originally Posted by GLD-086 Im sure some guy from the R31 Skyline Club ran a low 13 high 12 in a RB30E R31. That would be me I have run a 13.9, not a high 12 Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Maco vl used to come on the forums a bit, but everyone gave the poor guy sh!t so i havent seen him on here for yonks but he went all out with his na, even had a microtech and said it would beat stock vlts lol

There is 11 sec 202's out there that are N/A, so its most definitely possible with a RB30. But as said above, the improvement that a turbo gives with little expense is without a doubt the best way to go. And I'm tipping you N/A supporters haven't been in a decent VLT, because I have changed the minds of people who own 400 chev's after going for a spin.

i have a 12 second n/a

Quote: Originally Posted by david85dc Maco vl used to come on the forums a bit, but everyone gave the poor guy sh!t so i havent seen him on here for yonks but he went all out with his na, even had a microtech and said it would beat stock vlts lol All out? I thought he just had a stock rebuild and all he had was a microtech, fairly sure. I don't know, I'd like a 14 second n/a.. Just like I'd rather a 14 second gemini over a 12 second xr6t I sometimes question why people build quick cars.. When the speed limit is 60 most of the places we go. Why bother?

Quote: Originally Posted by hsvtrev There is 11 sec 202's out there that are N/A, so its most definitely possible with a RB30. But as said above, the improvement that a turbo gives with little expense is without a doubt the best way to go. And I'm tipping you N/A supporters haven't been in a decent VLT, because I have changed the minds of people who own 400 chev's after going for a spin. I've never stepped foot into a VLT before lol so until I do its N/A for me. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by Bax All out? I thought he just had a stock rebuild and all he had was a microtech, fairly sure. I don't know, I'd like a 14 second n/a.. Just like I'd rather a 14 second gemini over a 12 second xr6t I sometimes question why people build quick cars.. When the speed limit is 60 most of the places we go. Why bother? he has a lot of work done. portting cam work extracotrs and exhaust xf tb air plenum ported aftermarket ecu the usual stuff with na work.

HSVTREV; i have stepped into a vl turbo, really did like it and thats were my lve of VLs came from.

go the n/a Vl's 5 speeds 4 sure, my car pumps 9's nah joking i reckon with cheap work done to it , easy 15's so i dont see how 14's would be so hard ??

Quote: Originally Posted by 4BangN go the n/a Vl's 5 speeds 4 sure, my car pumps 9's nah joking i reckon with cheap work done to it , easy 15's so i dont see how 14's would be so hard ?? the guy who ran 14.2 has 132rwkw, now if you can pull off from what 89rwkw to 132rwkw good luck to you. i have a big rwkw na rb30 yet for me to get to where the bloke with 132rwkw is it will cost me heaps yet pretty close to it already.

fella's it doesnt take a big amount of money to make an n/a fast, i know fisrt hand that rover built his car for under $2500 including tuning and diff.

2500, if he did it all himself yes.

Most people don't consider a 12/13 fast.