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Can you identify this Holden 'Special' V8? Help!

Started by wedgeman · 13 Jan 2006 · 28 replies

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VLHEROArchived member
you can also find commodorenut at www.streetcommodores.com (http://www.streetcommodores.com)
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JimmaArchived member
As trypsi said, this thread just brought memories of the JUDGE. Rest in Peace Todd.
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wedgemanArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by VLHERO you can also find commodorenut at www.streetcommodores.com (http://www.streetcommodores.com) Many thanks - I'll give him a shout. It is starting to look like a VL Walky Group A - but a very early one, or perhaps one which was being tweaked for the UK. When I've got all the answers I'll post them on here.. It should make interesting reading! Thanks again guys - much appreciated Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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VN-1986Archived member
nice car but i gotta say the styling ove the arse end looks alot like a porsche
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VLTWhite1Archived member
Would TVR possibly have had contacts with Tom Walkinshaw Racing in the UK at the time ? Maybe try dropping HSV a line. I'd imagine they would have been ferrying engines to TWR (not TVR) for all sorts of testing and maybe one snuck out the back door so to speak.
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wedgemanArchived member
The ECM has got "8-12-87" written on it in red marker pen on the outside of the case - which makes the car look VL dated. Can any of you Aussie chip-wizzards come up with any more information on this ECM? The id on the memcal is actually printed on. It states: SEEQ DK062019 PGM 21V 8433 The brown carrier that the memcal clips into has got printed on it: 68767 8708 On the outside of the ECM the paper stuck-on label looks like it reads: RVI 1227808 5.0L MAN PFI 16079 ?? AJID It also has written on it: "TVR No.1" in red marker pen and on the end of the ECM it also states in red marker pen: "AM320 8-12-87 Cheers Howard Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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TRJBT1Archived member
JUDGE yellow giacattolo with simmons fr's? that was a beautiful car and rest in piece. wedgeman your a lucky man goodluck with the build look forward to checking it out at somepoint.
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SYKD UPArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by wedgeman The ECM has got "8-12-87" written on it in red marker pen on the outside of the case - which makes the car look VL dated. Can any of you Aussie chip-wizzards come up with any more information on this ECM? The id on the memcal is actually printed on. It states: SEEQ DK062019 PGM 21V 8433 The brown carrier that the memcal clips into has got printed on it: 68767 8708 On the outside of the ECM the paper stuck-on label looks like it reads: RVI 1227808 5.0L MAN PFI 16079 ?? AJID It also has written on it: "TVR No.1" in red marker pen and on the end of the ECM it also states in red marker pen: "AM320 8-12-87 Cheers Howard Howard, As a former Engineer from Holden I think I maybe able to answer your questions. The engine is an ex-test mule for the Walkinshaw model commodore. Back then, HSV contracted holdens dynos to perform test & track work so that holden could warrant the engines in new vehicle sales. Unlike now, ex test engines were sold off to staff & related Holden personel for there own use. For example, my friend who is an ex-mechanic of the Fishermans bend plant was able to buy an ex test 4 bolt main VL walkinshaw short engine to convert his HG wagon to an EFI V8!!!! This sales activity seized around the late 90's due to an employee attempting to sue the company to failed parts......This explains the cover & the plenum not looking to spec as we know them in the field, they are off tool samples, probably not signed off by the syling dept. As for the ECU, yes it is a std holden item, but the chip has the usual HSV optioned knock sensor for that day. All the HSV cars got the knock ssr (VN Clubbys, VP senators, SV89s, SV 91 statesmans etc), it is the early 16K system with knock sensor added, (located on the side of the block where the water jacket plug hole is). The markings on the ECU case suggest it was an ex-test engine from GM, ie the date marked on it 12/87. The gear in the bottom end is exactly the same a std aussie 5ltr, right down to the x rods, ACL pistons (dished), chev rod bolts (X rods were chev), cast crank but the difference were the 4 bolt mains. The heads are unique to the walkinsaw/VN grpa family & are slightly different in the port, valves & chamber sizes sizes to the std PFI heads. There was more comp (around 9.5:1) unlike the std 8.2-8.7:1 comp in the PFIs. You will also will find this information useful: Walkinshaw engines were meant to be handbuilt items from HSV; up to 500 walkys were built by hand. The car hit the market & because the crazy demand, the subsequent 500 were built by Holden on an assembly line, not with handbuilt pride & gauging by the photo of the rollers, its one of the first 500 that were handbuilt. I could on & on here, but you;ve got a unique rare piece of machinery, so respect it.... Dave Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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aus880Archived member
well done Dave!!!!!!!!!!!
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