Quote: Originally Posted by Cletus if your going by that giant list vicroads produced late last year were they banned most v8's you can forget that, theyre not bringing it in too many p-platers have v8's they cant force them to sell up, and with the list it wasnt a ban on p-platers driving them it was a ban on them registering under there name, too many ways of getting around it so they couldnt be ***t.it they tried to bring it in after that horrible crash near chapel street, with the black r-33 skyline but as for power to weight arnt clubbys like 1500kg?meaning u could drive it with as long as it was around 190kw? tripper. that list has been around for years and gets updates all the time. not only that, the law has been around for years. simple maths will tell you most 308/304's are illegal

so after reading this im guessing the VL V8 304 is illegal for P Platers?? what if its regd in me grandmas name and insured under her as well, n e way round it at all?? cheers.

iv got a 5ltr vl calais 308 havnt been pulled over yet :P. if u drive normally u dont get hasselled..

Quote: Originally Posted by stockVL.. so after reading this im guessing the VL V8 304 is illegal for P Platers?? what if its regd in me grandmas name and insured under her as well, n e way round it at all?? cheers. As da_ilks siad...Having said that I've never been pinged. It's only a $138 if you get caught, and no points...

Quote: Originally Posted by stockVL.. so after reading this im guessing the VL V8 304 is illegal for P Platers?? what if its regd in me grandmas name and insured under her as well, n e way round it at all?? cheers. no it's not. The Victorian laws are 125KW to the tonne. And VL V8's only put out around 125KW i think so for a car weighing in at aroun 1500Kg you're more than ok

cheers heaps for that guys! i found a nice berlina, and yer as people say drive normally and i shouldnt be hassled. and by the VIN calculator they only put out 122kws at the fly, so its under??

it's not counted at the wheels. It is engine output. Remember the calculation is done with regards to weight aswell so that's what you have to take into account. Off the top of my head all cars up until the VT II V8's are ok to be driven by P platers. HSV's are a different matter. Vicroads have a list on their website with all the cars you can and can't drive

i live in dandy area, i called da local cop shop n askd if da car is restricted n dey said yes, n den i called narree warren cop shop n dey said it isnt, so wots da deal with that. jus take it easy bro n u shuld be olrite with the copz

Quote: Originally Posted by SGTMAC i live in dandy area, i called da local cop shop n askd if da car is restricted n dey said yes, n den i called narree warren cop shop n dey said it isnt, so wots da deal with that. jus take it easy bro n u shuld be olrite with the copz i know what u mean, me mates got a R33 GTS25t and most cops dont care and leave him alone but he got done by Pettett and i said to him its stupid on how inconsistent it is, how some dont care and he frigen hassles the sh!t outta everyone i checked VicRoads' list and shes on there so i dunno what to do now. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by stockVL.. i know what u mean, me mates got a R33 GTS25t and most cops dont care and leave him alone but he got done by Pettett and i said to him its stupid on how inconsistent it is, how some dont care and he frigen hassles the sh!t outta everyone i checked VicRoads' list and shes on there so i dunno what to do now. yer its jus luck of the draw.. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

yer just a pain in the arse when ya live near knox lol

Quote: Originally Posted by Chiows no it's not. The Victorian laws are 125KW to the tonne. And VL V8's only put out around 125KW i think so for a car weighing in at aroun 1500Kg you're more than ok Yes it is.... Victoria has power to weight and capacity to weight. Just about all of them actually pass Power to Weight laws, the problem is they all fall on capacity to weight. The law is 3.5L per tonne.....

mmmm bloody confusing sh!t i just got off the phone to knox police and spoke to a couple people and they said its fine, all V8's up to VN i think he said were ok for p platers, so now im even more confused.

I used to work all this stuff out years ago. In a commodore... a VS SS was right on the border line for power to weight and engine capacity to weight... so you would legally drive it on your P's. But a clubsport goes over the limit. Aswell as having to be within those guidelines the car must also not be on vicroads list of restricted vehicles. Which can be obtained by calling vicroads. Just about every holden V8 is on there... i have the list. Also... it doesnt matter whos name the car is registered to... the driver must make sure that the car they drive is roadworthy and legal for them to drive. I have never heard of this law actually being enforced. You see P platers with Gen 3's around... seriously they would be first hassled. As said previously, if you do miraculously get caught... its just a fine. /end rant

if you don't be a d!ckhead in it, Attract attention to urself you should be ok

Im buying a VS CLubby in the next few weeks! Ill be off my P's in Dec. 2006........lost my license couple of times. My mate has one and he's nearly 19. Never gets pulled up and the next few weeks he's chucking a 335stroker in it!!!

in sydney dont think u could drive it at all i think all V8's and some 6's and turbos are all band. pretty stupid really fastest i have ever been was in a NA 4 cylinder so u dont really need a turbo car 2 go fast u just get 2 ur desired speed abit faster but then i seen Civics with Vtec engines running high 12's NA..........dont u think it seems wrong??? u can still drive smart cars u know those lil things?? i wouldnt even fit in 1 lol

a fue people have said if you dont drive like a **** head you wont get pulled ova well get this i was driving to work not 7:30 in the morning not speeding and i was stoped at the lights the copa got me and told me to pull ova damm pettett gave me a high powerd fine 110 bucks

Quote: Originally Posted by Phill I rekon if you wana buy a car u really like then go for it. But just be willing to put up with the canerys and fines and bla bla bla. Im getting a VS Clubsport 185i and im paying my insurance and so on. So the 185i VS Clubby are party Legal? Also whats the website with the "Banned" Cars on it?

theres an acobe reader list on the vicroads site that lists the cars your not meant to drive on ur p's, the VS clubby used to be on it, but then they updated the list and i could no longer find it. Have a look though....