yeah this test is nice in theory. but i doubt one test would apply to every turbo vehicle on this site. every different cooler, turbo, ECU mix you can think of would have to be tested, as they all operate ever so differently and release differnet results cause of how they are manufactured to run. there is no the law would cover you if you said a similar VLT passed. to be covered you would need exactly, (every component the same as the test car) to be covered. when it comes to the law it is super anal as we all know, they won't just lay down and die on this one. SIMILAR SPEC IS NOT "SAME" SPECS.
ive talked to the epa guy myself about the same topic petros and i still thought he was a **** sucker, he tried to tell me that they pull over more taxis and trucks and commercial cars then actual modified cars?? (MY ASS) i said to him straight out ive never in my life seen a taxi or any commercial vehicle with a EPA sticker or ever be at the EPA station and i gave him abit of hell i cant stand EPA i cant stand the government they can all go shoot themselfs, even if you do this test you will still get rooted somehow by the police or epa they will always find a way. ive got a better way of bypassing the epa but that i cant say publically on the site
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Would a highly modifed vlt be able to be detuned succesfully...
I suppose they would try to minimise fuel to decrease emmisions etc yeh?
haha i was thinkin with aftermaket ecus u can have more than 1 tune saved for ur motec for example.
u can have ur 5psi EPA legal pass all tests tune.
your 25psi pulp hardcore street tune
and then ur 30psi C16 dumped exhaust tune for the strip aswell
when u get a visit sent to u from the epa u just 'plug and play' for 2 mins and wolah... Legal as legal can be. 'cant touch this' hahahah!!!!
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Turbopower and Morgan were talking about it....
Yeah I'm doing full evaporative testing, gonna cost a sh1t load.
If this is right Petros, I'll get in done through him for sure!
LPG should pass pretty well I think, have to wait and see.
the test is called ADR-37 test a fuw places do it ford do it but not untill next yr as there upgrading there testing stations there the cheapest so far around the 1200 1300 for part test (if car has no fuel tank mods or fuel line mods) +600 odd if it does . www.vipac.com.au (http://www.vipac.com.au) all so do it there about 2400 and only do full test and toyota allso do not sure on there mods and if done by law they carnt touch you providing the rest off the car is r/w . bigger brakes or modded suspention or wheels they could ask for an enginers if they wanted im in the process off getting this all done . the motor is pritty much a 9 sec package from pet forgies plenthum cam 363's autronic ta45 extractors exturnal waste gate catch can ect ect ill keep you all posted car should be ready for testing in the next mth or so just gotta save abit more $$$ for the test and may wait till the new yr for ford to do it
Will the 363's provide enough flow to run a nine ??? I would have though you may need something flowing more than 600cc. But then again my car would run a 13 so what would i know hahah.
yer nps with 2 pumps the same kinda motor package has taken 3 or 4 p.e.t mod cars to 9's darkos jims and nicks sure theres 1 more any way it would make the power np's so far has only made 282rwk on 14.7 psi mind you then got epaed so has not been boosted yet
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gotta be careful too of the gas apparently they are starting to do over the gas ppl!
For sure, anyone who think by simply converting to gas will solve any EPA probs is wrong, theres a crap load more to it than that!
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Coolers they know, trust me (But it doesn't matter, all coolers are fine now)
what do ya mean vlt-dreamer? is this just hte rule about coolers being ok if theres only one intake mod? i thought aftermarket coolers were still dodgy if the car didnt come with one std, like a vl. (not that i care, i have a soarer)
im not an expert, so don't shoot me if im wrong.........but AFAIK you can't have an aftermarket ecu to pass this test that can be retuned. simply for that reason, this is why aftermarket ecu's are illegal, because they can be de-tuned. the emmisions test doesnt exempt the car from the relevant ADR's, VSI's, etc, it just shows that the emmisions comply with it, the reason for the epa rules is that they believe x mods violate x rules, the test just shows otherwise. AFAIK adjustable boost controllers will still be illegal, you can't get an adjustable controller to pass, unless it passes at all possible ranges, something like a 14psi avo wastegate acutator could pass however i believe.
if they make you take the evaporative emissions test, then have fun passing that. lol
we all know the cops could will still defect either way, its weather u can be bothered taking it to court
well the vl is coming up to 25 years old and i head once a car is over 25 years it becomes classic or somthing like that and emission laws dont comply anymore this is what i heard anyway.
harris sorry champ but you can have an arfter market computer if it passes the adr-37 test then its fine as far as the epa concerned trust me i'v checked this out in detail and as sadi cars almost ready for this test
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harris sorry champ but you can have an arfter market computer if it passes the adr-37 test then its fine as far as the epa concerned trust me i'v checked this out in detail and as sadi cars almost ready for this test
for once im glad to be wrong, best of luck then
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Corsa special vechlies have this test so they can run Motecs.
Hey Petros, Have you met Pettit, top cop eh. Alot of hardcore Aussie coppers are racists but what do you do, I have'nt given smart ass attitude to coppers so I have been left alone ok, had the odd defect from time to time. But it's been my fault.
VL's regardless of age will always have to meet emissions for the ADR's they came out with, I think it's ADR 27-A. But as already said if the car has Autronic, whatever, and other mods like injectors, as long as it meets the ADR it is deemed ok, but the test will cost you an arm and a leg better off buying a identicle car leave it stock, and pay one rego but use it between the 2 cars, That way when you get caught present the stocker for the tests, that will freak them out. I have done this before never had engine numbers checked or anything until I sold one of the cars.
The main reason why I bought my capri is because it's produced before any emission ADR's were in place, the only thing they can get me on is excessive exhaust noise.
End of the day you will get a defect, EPA, depending on the copper regardless of what test or engineers reports you have. take it to court if you are right but chances are it will cost you alot more and you probably lose your case.
Find yourself a dodgey RWC place, then have a back up emergency EPA kit so when you gotta take your car in for tests you swap everything around.
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lol EXCELLENT idea dude that was my plan to BUT i dont think its a smart idea posting it here u reckon u could edit it lol cause i know 100% coppers and epa come on these sites
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well the vl is coming up to 25 years old and i head once a car is over 25 years it becomes classic or somthing like that and emission laws dont comply anymore this is what i heard anyway.
if you can count they're currently 16-18 yrs old
