would you lose any power converting to straight gas?

Quote: Originally Posted by RB30jet Even if the conversion is around the $2500 mark, think of the money you will save on not having to buy injectors, fuel pumps, surge tanks etc. Also you will only have to have an ECU to control ignition. So all up that could probably save you the $2500. not to mention the saving in fuel costs, LPG = 32 cents p/l, Unleaded = $1.04 p/l (on a good day) VL_Nick, to do the excercise properly you need to build the engine for the LPG, another good thing about LPG is that you can bump the compression ration right up (for n/a applications of course), I've seen cars running 13:1 no problems and getting a sh!t load of power. You also need to harden the valve seats in the head as LPG is very dry, it dosen't contain the lubricants that petrol does. Tuning makes a huge difference as well as the LPG hardware you use, if you install a TAXI LPG setup then don't expect too much from it.

so u could actually gain power from getting the gas conversion? so it would cost say 2500 for 1 throttle body, can u get twin throttle body? if so how much would it cost to get the full conversion, tune, and compression put higher?

dude, I already posted the price, it's around the $3,500 mark for twin throttle bodies with a full conversion and dyno tune. To increase your compression you need to disassemble your engine and change your pistons or just shave your head depending on how high you want to go, but this is only really for the n/a's as you don't want too much compression with forced induction or BOOM!!!!!

ah ok sorry bro, i saw that about the throttle bodies, but didnt know how much for compression, i would of got but meh iwanna do a turbo conversion later so prolly best not to unless i get a v8 conversion

my head is already shaved 30" which is about max b4 getting into belt probs. hardened valve seats too. hmmm would be nice to get gas setup. heaps cheaper in the long run

vl muzza, how much did you pay for your setup? 4-5k ?

I would say that Paul payed more for his conversion as it is quite customised, everything is hidden out of sight and it is a very clean install indeed, credit to the installer!

Quote: Originally Posted by [VLT 747] stop talkin bout dual fuel lol i hate dual fuel im just interested in prices really Is it all postive vibes from Gas Research or? coz gas research is the only place i kno for str8 gas setups Ring GRA and speak to Peter 97066322 hes building a 600hp interceptor for somebody whos probably a regular on the website. If someone knows him or of him please get him to post some details in the in progress section. As vl Muzza is the only guy I know of to make big power on lpg.

Quote: Originally Posted by WooD vl muzza, how much did you pay for your setup? 4-5k ? The engine bay and GAS setup i have reciepts for 22K....

is it just me who finds it pretty freaky u guys, especially paul, make great power with just a single gra throttle body

To me it all depends on how fast you want to go. I can't see you running low 9's on gas. But easy 10's

Quote: Originally Posted by JetVLTurbo To me it all depends on how fast you want to go. I can't see you running low 9's on gas. But easy 10's yeah, but how many 10 sec "street" cars are out there that would actually pass an EPA check or even pass a Roadworthy? and as you would know there is a hell of a difference between an easy 10 sec car and a low 9 sec car, more boost, more fuel and even some laughing gas to boot! there is no reason why you couldn't run 9's with LPG given more mods.

does any1 know wat management VL MUZZA is running?

hehe thats the beauty of GAS. You dont need managment as there are no injectors etc. I am using a Haltech IG5 ignition only computer and a Motec CDI ignition upgrade.

you dont need to use a twin throttle body setup when you are forcing through air. The only reason you need to use twin setup is in the case of a large cubic capacity naturaly aspirated motor which can only suck air in, so it needs as much air to get in as possible, hence the twin throttle bodies. A single, 440 cfm throttle body is more than enough for a turbo application. Im using the factory computer with a gas research throttle body on my car. Drives like a dream Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

well can some one list what you would need to convert it to gas only...? so far: - tank - throttle body - mixer? what else

I have twin B2 convertors, a 425 Impco carby (a second one might be needed) and a bored XF throttle body, which flows a heap more than 440cfm.

Quote: Originally Posted by busted A single, 440 cfm throttle body is more than enough for a turbo application. Im using the factory computer with a gas research throttle body on my car. Drives like a dream Hey busted, can you elaborate on your set-up please? I'm sure afew people would be interested in exactly what your using. So, 440cfm GRA throttle body? Single converter? And what boost/rwkw are you running? Standard ignition system? Thanks, Sigmund. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

go there.. http://www.planetspeedy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30 i havent tuned the car yet, been to lazy. The turbo is a hybrid i had made for myself. Basically vl back half, bigger internal wastegate and a t04e front half with .50 comp cover.