Quote: Originally Posted by Midz does matter how it sounds or how it looks when it comes to power:weight ratio. There are plenty of stock looking cars with more power that 370kw :P yeah but if a copper sees an s15, skyline or hsv with p plates they are gonna think *oh power/weight offender* straight away, but a discreet looking 17 year old commodore? Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

i honestly cant beleive how many people think this is a good thing. how many of you work late of a nite? how many of you are p platers? if they arent stopping us from one thing its another. 0 blood alcohol? what does one drink do. 1 drink honestly who will say they are unfit to drive a car after one drink? 50% wont do anything as may p platers are 17 and so dont have the right to vote? so they will not effect the government. my point is again they just think they can walk all over us. i will oppose this law to the death. even if it cuases me to be charged with something. i will fight for what i beleive till the end. im sure many people out there agree with me and i want your opinions.

Atmo Bt1 Im Glad To See That Another Person Has The Ability To Think And Logicaly. Every Thing You Have Said Is True My Old Girl Works At The Rta And Will Get Her To Gt Me A Booklet As Well. Im Gunna Hit Up Autosalon Now.

vlred u get exactly what im on about. they are terrible stats for a minority on the road. and extorona u told us earlier that u constantly go 200 k's an hour and you wonder why u are getting curfewed. use your noggin cheif save your energy and im positive they will work around you having a job after hours. other wise i will be with u on the fact they cannot stop us from driving to work.

MY OPINION: YOUR AN IDIOT. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE MOUTHING OFF. YOU HAVE NO IDEA. 63% decrease in fatal accidents in provisional drivers after the indroduction of driving curfews. enough said. now go and get yourself arrested. some quotes from extroana: Quote: ive got the need, the need for speed. my vl is a auto with cat back exhuast pod and advanced timing and i constantly clock the speedo so they go quicker than 200 well bro i do it just about every nite. i aint gunna die i mite get seriously maimed but its all good. and could youtell me why im gunna loose control? sits on the road perfectly. they have speed limits so people who dont know how to drive travel at a safe speed. i dont do this through a set of s's i do this on a long straight highway.

I know when you get a motorbike license on ur L's and P's u cant drive over a 250cc bike wat if they start making it that p platers cant drive any car with an engine over 1000cc or somthin it could happen. i had a big disscussion at my place big family thing u know lol like how they can do it and well wen u think about it if they Ban WRX and GTiR and EVO's most 4wd performance cars from young drivers how can they really do it wen really most like the WRX and EVO are 5 door which really makes them a family sedan with sporty engine. my dad owns a Nissan Patrol now that is a 4wd or a Rav 4 to me they are 4wd's now just say they ban V8's and turbos from young people get a Type R civic or integra VTEC which with exhausts and so can make it quick or quicker then a standard WRX 1800cc motor or even 1600cc. how can it be sorted??? in wat orders?? and how?? wat if they put 110kmh speed limit on cars??? but wats stops ya from doing 110kmh in a 50kmh zone i jsut think with these ideas its stupid like i work at 4-10 in the morning im a P plater but im 22 i will just take my p plates off if they make it all p platers. i have done stupid things in cars i have lost my license for 9 months and amongst other things but wat about drink driving how many young people have been done for that i think the age number for that is higher then 21. the Law is a joke a Terrisot can get bail in Australia lol thats how are strong our laws are wata joke. laugh at Australia we should be called Mini USA. sorri i just get fustrated.

yeah i do clock 200 kays an hour. with my self in the car no one ellse and i make that decision to do so. if i die everyone in my family knows how i drive and they would know that i made the decision to do it and that there was no one ellses fualt involved except my own. people are all ways looking for someone to blame. i usedto race moto cross and we were alwys told if you beleive the track to be unsafe tell someone and it will be fixed. you ride at your own risk. but when someone seriosly injured them selves they need someone to blame so start sueing. but they choose to go out there. i can no longer justify racing due to the cost of licensing due to claims that are made

sounds like a job is the only way around the curfew, but again, how would they police that? when a copper pulls u up at say 11:30 could u not just say ur delivering pizzas? its not like they would follow u back to the pizza shop is it? unless u were a smartass of course. Oh and with the job-exemptions, are they only for delivery boys etc who actually drive late at night WHILE they work or for those getting home from work as well? extroana: mate do it, im with you all the way, as i said before, im not even 18 yet so if this passes i got a long time before i clear it.

that is exactly ny point ATMO BT1 you are under 18 so cant vote and so are many others so these people do not impact on the government. i am sick of being voicless in this fight that ultamatley seems un winnable. but i aint gunna take a fall im gunna go kicking and screeming and throwing any punch that is thrown at me straight back at em

hahaha my mates 21 and he is on his L's hahah we go crusin all tha time in his car!! he got a vlt aswell hahha wat can tha cops n rta do bout that??? L's-he is 21- got a vlt hahahhahah