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2pack vs Acrylic

Started by treziser · 30 June 2004 · 82 replies

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sikcalaisArchived member
well there is different ways to get a candy effect, you can use the silver (i would use the finest silver u can buy if you want it bright) base and then the tinted clear (wich u can also alter the colour of the clear for brightness. or with the candy i painted the base was an orange mettalic with a red tinted clear over the top, looks awesome in person
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GRN-747Archived member
not all of us have good booths its not my fualt my boss is rich and is a tight arse Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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duz360Archived member
when you say fine do you mean good quality? would the asteroid silver be any good? thats what im doin the bars in so i could save buying different paint for the candy base
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GRN-747Archived member
Quote: Originally Posted by sikcalais well there is different ways to get a candy effect, you can use the silver (i would use the finest silver u can buy if you want it bright) base and then the tinted clear (wich u can also alter the colour of the clear for brightness. or with the candy i painted the base was an orange mettalic with a red tinted clear over the top, looks awesome in person wat brand paint do you use we use ppg andmipa clear the reason why they dont use ppg supreme clear coz i think its to expensive ive sued it b4 and its a better finish them mipa crap, but that we use at work so i have to use it cheers
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GRN-747Archived member
Quote: Originally Posted by duz360 when you say fine do you mean good quality? would the asteroid silver be any good? thats what im doin the bars in so i could save buying different paint for the candy base as ive said b4 ive your suing note: if, ppg stuff just go with c915 tinner its similar to astroid silver but you want the formula for astroid silver ive got it here somewhere cheers
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duz360Archived member
also do i have to totally remove the stock paint or just scuff it
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poida24Archived member
Quote: Originally Posted by sikcalais hey people, when did i ever say that you CANT paint a car without an oven, i said dont for various reasons. 1. 2-pak is designed for an oven and if the paint doesnt reach a certain temp the paint will never cure properly because the chemical reaction needs the heat to work properly 2. you paint a car without an oven you get a lot more dirt in the job, thats a real prick to get rid of 3. because the paint takes longer that means its softer for longer so also dirt gets into it more 4. paint flows differently in different temps, baking at 60 degrees allows the paint to flow and even out. as you would no there are different 2pak's that go off at room temp.. yes there are, BUT, they are designed for small fast jobs, ie 1 or 2 panels, you paint a respray in that and good luck when you have to cut n polish the **** out of it, thanks steve hey sorry dude i was just trying to help Thats the problem with the "pro" only no one way and they think its the only way..
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GRN-747Archived member
Quote: Originally Posted by duz360 also do i have to totally remove the stock paint or just scuff it you can scuff it with a fine grade paper like 800 or so to knock the shine off pick up all your chips though dont wanna paint over them they stick out like dogs balls cheers
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duz360Archived member
Quote: Originally Posted by FULBST you can scuff it with a fine grade paper like 800 or so to knock the shine off pick up all your chips though dont wanna paint over them they stick out like dogs balls cheers yeah i was gonna take photos of the car beforehand and circle every defect so i know where they are once i start.then hit the chips with high build primer
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poida24Archived member
Quote: Originally Posted by duz360 yeah i was gonna take photos of the car beforehand and circle every defect so i know where they are once i start.then hit the chips with high build primer depending how many chips if not to many just get some fine filler and fill up the chip and give it a very light sand..
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duz360Archived member
Quote: Originally Posted by poida24 depending how many chips if not to many just get some fine filler and fill up the chip and give it a very light sand.. do you leave the filler slightly built up or knock it back untill it is only in the chip[if you know what i mean]!
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poida24Archived member
Quote: Originally Posted by duz360 do you leave the filler slightly built up or knock it back untill it is only in the chip[if you know what i mean]! yeah i no what you mean dude if you are careful you will not make it very high when you fill it but if it is a bit high yeah just very lightly sand it flat and dont just sand the chip sand very lightly in about 10-15cm around the chip "ultra fine" is the filler comes in a tin like body filler..
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GRN-747Archived member
yeh 2pack filler would be good to fill in those chip either block it down dry with 180 and then 320 by hand or use either 400 or 600 or even 800 on a block wet to rub it out eitherway cheers
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sikcalaisArchived member
Quote: not all of us have good booths its not my fualt my boss is rich and is a tight arse lol, all bosses are tight arses i reckon. Quote: when you say fine do you mean good quality? would the asteroid silver be any good? thats what im doin the bars in so i could save buying different paint for the candy base yeah astroid will be fine to use as a base, i mean fine as in very small mettalic flakes, not chunky mo foe's Quote: wat brand paint do you use we use ppg andmipa clear the reason why they dont use ppg supreme clear coz i think its to expensive ive sued it b4 and its a better finish them mipa crap, but that we use at work so i have to use it we use glasurut, EXPENSIVE but very good stuff Quote: hey sorry dude i was just trying to help Thats the problem with the "pro" only no one way and they think its the only way.. thats bull**** too, i know plenty of ways, ive explained the things that can happen without a booth because its the best way, your trying to help the bloke, im trying to help him avoid f**k ups, i have ****loads of different ways to paint a car mate Quote: also do i have to totally remove the stock paint or just scuff it you dont have to but if you want to go the hack and do a brilliant job bare metall always is the best way, if not the paint only has to be sanded back till its dull and flat looking (no orange peel) the paint underneath is most likely acrilic so if you have any rub throughs (through the colour) make sure you put a spot of primer over them as it will fry up in the 2-pak, you can fine fill the chips but i would block them out and put a spot of primer on them
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SYKO3LArchived member
umm..only thing i could add is....are you aware that candys fade very fast?
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poida24Archived member
Quote: Originally Posted by sikcalais thats bull**** too, i know plenty of ways, ive explained the things that can happen without a booth because its the best way, your trying to help the bloke, im trying to help him avoid f**k ups, i have ****loads of different ways to paint a car mate if you dont want some one that doesnt no what they are doing to stuff it up, then mabe the best Answer to there question is dont touch the car at all. there are thousands of very nice 2-pak cars around than were not painted in a paint shop..
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1sickvlArchived member
mine is acrylic Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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1sickvlArchived member
hrrm that link never works! http://www.pbase.com/image/30803265
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sikcalaisArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by poida24 if you dont want some one that doesnt no what they are doing to stuff it up, then mabe the best Answer to there question is dont touch the car at all. there are thousands of very nice 2-pak cars around than were not painted in a paint shop.. true there are, BUT there is a ****load more work needed to get them looking as good as one thats been done in a booth Quote: umm..only thing i could add is....are you aware that candys fade very fast? yes they do because the tinted clear has basecoat in it, but there is ways around that, the one i painted in the 2-pak costs section is a basecoat then clear basecoat binder which is the tinted clear and then 2 coats of clear, no fading will happen
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sikcalaisArchived member
oh and if i dont want someone to stuff there paint job up i wont say dont touch the car at all cause that is obvious to everyone, but if someone wants to have a go ill help em with the right answers, i dont talk **** and ive painted enough cars and ****ed up enough to know whats the best way to go about something
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