i am 199% sure they are the same coz they inter change and work fine i did it about a month ago now..

me too no problems here.

its time for an axle fight! lol

Quote: Originally Posted by Some Bored Dude i went thru this trouble gettin an axle for my wagon. in the end, i got one, same thickness, 28 spline, but was, well, Bloody Long, by about 5 - 6" or so, the bloke i brought it from said it came out of a VL Turbo. when i couldnt find an axle, i just sent my old axle, and new axle away, and had the new one cut down and resplined... worked a charm. sounds like you got the wrong side haha

do ppl no that the two axles left and right are not the same length?? mabe trying to put in the wrong way..

Why does every diff place in Melbourne says they are different then???

Quote: Originally Posted by sigmund Why does every diff place in Melbourne says they are different then??? dont know man.thats just what i think. why is a wagon wider than a sedan

Quote: Originally Posted by duz360 sounds like you got the wrong side haha yeah, thats what we soon found out. (duhh rod) why cant they just make things basic. instead of insideout annoying

Quote: Originally Posted by duz360 dont know man.thats just what i think. why is a wagon wider than a sedan I dont think wagons are wider than sedans, it's just the small space the rear tyres have between the tyre and the body. (tight fit with wide wheels)

Quote: Originally Posted by sigmund I dont think wagons are wider than sedans, it's just the small space the rear tyres have between the tyre and the body. (tight fit with wide wheels) he i know theyre not! axles are all same length. the only difference in any vl axle is the seals between disk and drum

I beg to differ about the two axles being the same length, thier not. The left and right axles are noticably different by lenght and this is out of a factory vl calias turbo diff, with id tags to prove it. I know this as i pulled it apart less than half an hour ago. Both axles were measured from the front edge where the wheel bolts on(round disc part) and the axles are standing verticle when i measured them. left is 791mm right is 698mm Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by wagon01 I beg to differ about the two axles being the same length, thier not. The left and right axles are noticably different by lenght and this is out of a factory vl calias turbo diff, with id tags to prove it. I know this as i pulled it apart less than half an hour ago. Both axles were measured from the front edge where the wheel bolts on(round disc part) and the axles are standing verticle when i measured them. left is 791mm right is 698mm for sure.i wasnt very clear. left and right are different lengths drum and disk have different seals axles are interchangable from sedan to wagon/vice versa hope this clears it up Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Have you got a set of sedan axles to measure as i have done to prove the wagon and sedan axles with discs are the same?

Quote: Originally Posted by wagon01 Have you got a set of sedan axles to measure as i have done to prove the wagon and sedan axles with discs are the same? no but the proof is in my diff.wagon axles in sedan housing

Quote: Originally Posted by wagon01 I beg to differ about the two axles being the same length, thier not. The left and right axles are noticably different by lenght and this is out of a factory vl calias turbo diff, with id tags to prove it. I know this as i pulled it apart less than half an hour ago. Both axles were measured from the front edge where the wheel bolts on(round disc part) and the axles are standing verticle when i measured them. left is 791mm right is 698mm thats funny you pulled a diff apart to tell us the axles are different lengths left and right we no that if you have a look at mine and duz360's posts we have said it you were supose to measure eg. left sedan and left wagon.. which are the same. id tags dont prove much..

ok question... I have a wagon, can I put a Turbo LSD axle and discs on it? or dopes it have to be from another wagon? Can anyone explain whats gotta be done. Cracka

ok.everything swaps without modification EXCEPT wagon housing to sedan housing(different shock mounts) drum axles to disk axles(different oil seals) the seals can be changed

Quote: axles are interchangable from sedan to wagon/vice versa That is totally incorrect, i will walk down the street butt naked if VL Wagon axles the same length as sedan axles. I have measured both sedan and wagon axles and they ARE different, if you have wagon axles in a sedan your either lying or you have two sedan diffs. I bought a set of vlt axles out of a wagon and the diff man could not fit them into a sedan housing, i then bought a set of sedan axles and put them alongside the wagon ones and they were about an inch longer for both axles. Also they all use the same sealing method but the drum discs use a thinner axle seal because the backing plates are thinner and dont have the seal sticking out as far as the disc backing plates, hence the thicker seal. (If you put a drum seal in a disc setup it will have end play, about 3mm +- You are correct in saying that drum & disc axles are the same, though disc axles use longer studs why do you keep insisting that they are the same when so many different people keep saying otherwise?

btw a vn diff has axles that are about an inch longer

ok here is the conversion that i did.and it works or i will eat my hat.i even raced at wsid with this diff in my car to the tune of 13.3. if it was gonna break id say it would have done then i had a wagon that i wrecked.pulled the diff out myself.it had shock mounts (stubs) welded to the rear of the housing(as wagon diffs do).it did not have sedan shock mounting points or any evidenceof them being removed. it was also a drum rear end. i removed the axles only and fitted them to my sedan diff with the disk brakes that were already on the sedan diff.they fit no worries except for excessive axle play. so i pulled them out and looked at the sedan axles and the wagon axles side by side. the only difference i could see was the thickness of the oil seals. so i took my wagon(drum) axles and had disk oil seals fitted. i fitted them straight up,no end play.no problems. ever all i am saying is that i have personally fitted wagon axles into a sedan housing. no mix ups,no confusion as to the origins of the axles. car crazy. i know you dont believe me.i have nothing to gain from saying this. honestly why else would i say it if i hadnt done it?