photochopping doesn't bother people, photochopping THEN claiming it's 800kw and 2mm off the ground bothers people.

lol, prophecy you'll live, it would b easy 2 forget it eva happened. beejay it probably doesnt look that low cause of the angle the photo was shot at

i used gt gas shocks and dobinsons super lows which actually go lower than kings. dropped the bluddy thing 3 inch and pulled the hilux shocks that were in from last owners. i got 17's on with 235s and thats the car in the pic. it does ride a bit better than kings as there a bit less stiff however im not too happy about it. useually bottoms out and tilts onto the front gaurd when i go around a corner. and also have to do the old z manuver for the speed humps. may change one day. BADVLSL when you put new springs and shocks in it takes a while for them to settle in under the new weight hence making them slightly lower then in the pic.

I went out an paid $900 for a full pedders suspension setup and fitted it ll my self and for some reason i noticed that my ultralows in the front DID sit higher then the VR/VS NON IRS pedders springs in the back.. The ultralows took about a week or two to settle in where for some reason the rear pedders stayed the same height the hole time.. if not raised higher.. Ive also noticed that pedders springs are muchly better then the king springs (sorry to say that) but it seems as if i can chuck about 3 peopl in the back and it doesnt move any more then 0.5inch... where with the ultralows that i had in it moved about an 1inch!! Well to prove that my car is actually the low it is.... P.S VR/VS pedders springs suit VLs as they are the same diamter (part no, 2129) About 3 inches lower then stock (properly measured)

setup.. Pedders Comfort Gas shocks front/ rear $400 Kingpsrings ultralow (3inches) front $130 Pedders VR/VS coil springs (3inches) rear $130 No scrubbage whatsoever and 225/60/15 tyres rear 205/65 front No panhard bar as of yet either

I run 235's with superlow's, pic is crap as car not runnin at the moment and I cant fit in the shed to get a good angle

guyz i need help.. i got 17inch rimz on myn with 235`z but i wana get 18inch copy vx GTS rimz n i want it 2 be lowered both level front and rear..i got told kingz are the best 2 go with vL`z lowering it by 30mm from original,my concer iz i dont wana make mistake al i want itz 2 be leveld nicely n no rubbin headacez with 18z... give me sum ideas guyz....

when i chucked my springs in they staed at that same height! I dnt think they mved a bit! //im not quite sure but i seems like it isnt as low as i used to be! CAN SPRIGS RISE?

BADVLSL - Thats what i like to see.. that tyre is almost completely under the guard Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by EYMEN guyz i need help.. i got 17inch rimz on myn with 235`z but i wana get 18inch copy vx GTS rimz n i want it 2 be lowered both level front and rear..i got told kingz are the best 2 go with vL`z lowering it by 30mm from original,my concer iz i dont wana make mistake al i want itz 2 be leveld nicely n no rubbin headacez with 18z... give me sum ideas guyz.... dude if you want big rims then your are gonna need to get thinner rims. 235's will be fine but you really cant go more than 7.5" wide rims otherwise your in trouble Vl's were only really made for 7" mide rims and thats a fact. you can easily sqeeze 7.5's in but it is still a challenge. when you buy your rims see if they can do them skinnier. or get the right freakin offset i have speedy longchamp 17"x7.5" with 235/45 on and they scrapped like it wasnt tomorrow on the guards. now i have lipped it is ok but still a bit rubbing around corners on the front tyres

Quote: Originally Posted by ExecTurbo BADVLSL - Thats what i like to see.. that tyre is almost completely under the guard Yeah ugly photo... the best part is that they are stiff as hell but not that rough on the road... and they arent ultralows either Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Let me guess.. lowered shocks, no springs.. (thats what i did in my VR 5ltr.. looked great, handled awesome...) bit bumpy.. but still good. If not, how did you get it that low? is it legal? and how many $$ involved? Cheers

If your talking to me, i bought vr-vs non irs springs for the rear and ultralowsfor the front... and i measured the rear to be only 2.25inches exactly lower then stock.. and pedders comfort gas for around $900 roughly.! same with ultralows.. they are SHYT! no offence.. but theyll only sit around 2.5inches lower then stock .. not 3 inches like what "King spring co." say.. So really dont believe what you are told.. see a VL with th height you want.. go for a ride in it.. see how rough it is.. if you like it... buy simlar setup to what he has.. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

i went for a ride in my mates vl 5lt calais, which the front was on pedders lows and the rears sat halfway down a 17in rim.... if u got 2 ppl in the back, the car wouldnt move coz the rear wheels were jammed into the roof of the guards. The ride was softer than my stock suspension, untill you hit a pothole, then it was nasty. His rears were severely cut... they only had like 2 coil revolutions on them.... MAN that was LOW, lowest vl i've ever seen!! (cept for the bagged wagon...) ush

yeah.. my plan is to put pedders in the front and cut the standard springs in half... that should do nicely..

naah mate. do it properly.. your standard wprings are too soft.. handling will be up to ****.. also i rewally recoomend using proper lowered shocks Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

haha Alex cut your springs in half!!!!! the lowrider lowrider!

hell yeah... i'll show you how i want my car to sit... ON ITS BAG!! That is 100% exactly how i want my car.. BT1 look, VLT hubcaps (which i have a full set of ) and on its arse so hard that there is no movement in the suspension... Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Geeeez! That would ride and handle soo very nicely Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Youd be supprised how smooth that car is (its not smooth, but its nowhere near as harsh as you'd think..)