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I'm shocked to see so much homoerotic behaviour from car fans...stop it! you're meant to like ac/dc, not the village people :P Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

What do you guys mean by saying that you can kill the speakers if dont have an amp?! 8O I have a set of pioneers 4way and i dont have an amp(yet),does this mean i can dameg them coz of that??!! :? Thanx.

I'm not too sure if it's a set rule, but my mate has some JBL 6*9's in his parcel shelf, and he has to pump up the head unit to get his "desired" sound level, and now his speakers are starting to die. Sounding like stocko crackling ones. I'd assume because you have to boost the level so much to gain such a little amount, whereas with an amp, you dont have to. There's probably a real reason, but I dont know it.

For any given volume level, a speaker requires a certain amount of power to generate a sufficient magnetic field to operate properly. When you turn your volume up on your head unit, it is unable to produce the power levels that the speakers demand, so they distort, and start to wear out. Speakers that are running off a well matched amplifier will always have enough power and will not deteriorate as a result of being underpowered.

Quote: Originally Posted by BurgundyCalais For any given volume level, a speaker requires a certain amount of power to generate a sufficient magnetic field to operate properly. When you turn your volume up on your head unit, it is unable to produce the power levels that the speakers demand, so they distort, and start to wear out. Speakers that are running off a well matched amplifier will always have enough power and will not deteriorate as a result of being underpowered. There, exactly what I said...kind of Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

yup you got it MurderCity! I was just trying add some substance to your argument.

Quote: Originally Posted by BurgundyCalais yup you got it MurderCity! I was just trying add some substance to your argument. LOL, I wasnt bagging you dude, you taught me what I was talking about then, so it's all good! Your explanation was far better than my "yes" comment. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

sweeeeet!

Thanx,so what you saying is aslong as i dont put it up to loud(sound stays clear) its ok?!

Yes. I think. You could always just buy a cheap(ish) 2x ?? amp, keep things sounding better.

yeah, amp the lil ****ers. They'll sound better and last longer.

yeah to add to that, the distorting sound u get when running off an hu, is usually the hu's internal amp. When the amp is struggling and u hear the distorting its feeding a direct 12v into your speakers. Like connecting the speakers to your car battery. Not good. The voice coils heat up. then the speakers are ****ed. A lot of people go, oh they are higher wattage,im going to get less distortion and more volume. Not true. Lower wattage speakers running of an hu will sound better. The pioneer 50x4 mosfet is only about 18 wrms per channel. There is also a certain degree of cleaness to this power as well. like the first 12 wrms are clean then the remaining is just distortion.

yeah, because the gear i bought is Audiophile Competition gear, it is designed to be run off an amp. the way the speakers are designed requires more power than a head unit can give. hope that helped a little p.s im saving my pennys up and looking at importing the new Kicker Sub when it comes out. 10,000 watts max. biggest sub ever. check it out at www.kicker.com looks like it should be some good fun should cos me a whole ****load too cheers Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by Epitaph the cones are made from what they make bullet proof vests out of. i was impressed when told that. i wouldnt go overboard, i use the bullet proof vests and if you drop them it will shatter them and its no longer strong. Kevlar is good however you still have to b very carefull with it. Its cermaic based so dont go throwing your speakers around :P And burgundy i put up a pic of me too, and hey i havnt copped **** for it yet...

Give them time Blew VL, it'll happen!! lol

nice pic BLEW_VL :evil: im just kidding mate, dont worry!

:twisted: i did the wrong face. i meant :twisted:

yeah well you see that steyr in my hands, i know how to use it VERY well, it really depends how u like it, personal (bayonet) or nice and clean, head shot from 300m.... :twisted: :twisted: ....lol

As if you're not just some wannabe army dude who plays CS all the time.