I agree that with tags and a VP won't kill the car. Maybe slightly less, but not a great deal. A genuine bt1, calais, hdt etc without tags will definitely have a higher reduced price. Obviously mods can make or break a car pending the buyers taste also. Standard form maintained cars are pretty scarce! The yellow "bt1" on eBay ATM without tags.... where's the rail fold for Turbo clearance? Example of things to look for! One thing I really back as stated earlier is that Facebook has a bunch of clowns who know jack and don't have any money to buy yet sit behind the keyboard dictating prices. Nowhere other than fb and gumtrees fake adds to push the market has a bt1 (until recently) been up or around 50k! It's a load of wank! Plus the amount of rust bucket bombs with an average price of 6-10k is a joke. Not to mention the old standard converted turbo manual SL for 15k is rediculous. A good car will always fetch good money, but some of those hillbillies need to put the pipe down My advice, buy what you need now at today's prices as this will only get worse!

Well said Adrian and your exactly right too Chris Us old wise vl heads have been around long enough too see through the smoke and mirrors

Quote: Originally Posted by deanoVLCT [View Post] Well said Adrian and your exactly right too Chris Us old wise vl heads have been around long enough too see through the smoke and mirrors The latest catch phrase "we all know these cars are getting rare" So I'll put 15-20k on a converted turbo SL.. Once again thank you for everyone's opinions...

Quote: Originally Posted by deanoVLCT [View Post] Hahaha Stevie wonder has an eBay account too Pressing random numbers Just trying to start some actual discussion and hard numbers Here's a complete rust wreck 86v8 sold for $6,000. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1986-s1-h...p2047675.l2557 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1986-s1-holden-vl-calais-factory-matching-numbers-5ltr-v8-vb-vc-vk-vh-sle-/332227162597?hash=item4d5a4831e5%3Ag%3AYUsAAOSwTM5Y4svJ&nma=true&si=rElEAh0j81ZW4raG%252FBHU4NoggGo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557) Trashed 87 NA6 no rego, $8,000 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1987-VL-C...AOSwuMZZAs3 r (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1987-VL-CALAIS-SEDAN-/182574473630?hash=item2a8249619e:g:IkwAAOSwuMZZAs3r) Another rusted VLv8 Calais no rego. Berlina plated? wagon 300km http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Holden-Co...p2047675.l2557 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Holden-Commodore-VL-V8-Calais-Berlina-Station-Wagon-Group-A-Scheel-Interior-/252835928063?hash=item3ade3217ff%3Ag%3Ae7AAAOSw32lYtNiY&nma=true&si=rElEAh0j81ZW4raG%252FBHU4NoggGo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557) Anyone if anyone wants to help add more sold prices and completed auctions go for it. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

that white calais v8 wagon i spoke to the new owners dad. i was waiting for a relist but it never happened the sale price was correct!! the bt1 on ebay VPN no tags man thats silly.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/11509...utm_source=sms (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/1150995479?utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=app_ios&utm_medium=social&utm_source=sms) Berlina turbo roller

Quote: Originally Posted by calaist5 [View Post] Thanks Vl John Hope you and the red beast are well. Cheers David No probs. Red beast has been off the road for nearly 2 years. I am currently getting the engine bay painted before I fit a freshly built forged A8. It should be on the road later in the year. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.