My old NA made 168 rwkw......but it was a ef falcon :P

actually the VN buick 6 was a pretty good motor, has anyone seen the figures that the yanks are pulling with them donks. remember the vn v6 in SC mag that was getting done up at a project, from memory the last figure they pulled before it went turbo was around the 160-170rwkw mark. and they could have acheived more but i think the guy who was doing the job quict or something like that.

^^^ ive seen those figures from the us, amazing!

how much power standard does the vn 3.8 have over a rb30e??

Quote: Originally Posted by 4sakenvl how much power standard does the vn 3.8 have over a rb30e?? Around 10kw at the fly from memory. Its more the mid range area under the curve which is where the 3.8ltr excels. They make good power but just don't seem to hang in there for all that long.

yeh its got about 10kw extra but its also got 296nm of torque which is the same as the turbo rb30 and 50nm more than the NA rb30, its the torque that helps get the vn over the quarter a full 2 seconds faster than the NA vl and only two tenths (.2) of a second slower than a stock 5speed vl turbo, i laugh at all the ppl with stock vl turbos who say vns are slow because a 5speed v6 vn is only 1 tenth of a second slower than a 5speed vl turbo over the quarter!

i think they have round 127kw but yeh the torque was through the roof, the first series of the vn had a problem frying the factory size 205/65/14 tyres. so in order to tame the beast they put a bell mouth just after the TB and a slight change to cam, same power figure but less torque i think the outcome was.

i think we may start to see some nice na power figures now that rajab is doing a na kit. i think that they have got 136kws out of 1 so far.

any more info on the rajab na kits? prices etc?

u laugh at stock vl turbo owners i know which one i would rather out of a vn and a vl turbo. anyways the rb30s make up almost the whole top ten of the fasted commodores in autralia no v6 buicks in there last time i checked. rb30 are way more advanced then those oil leaking buick motors there rough as guts rb30 were the best six ever in a commodore easyily

look boys, its just a discussion, not an arguement, lets keep it civil Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

my mate use to have a na calais with quite a bit of mods done to it got it dynoed and it pulled i think 132rwkw, he's on this forum, it was the marline blue one

agreed.. anyone got any info about these rajab na kits?

the only info ive seen so far is whats on there site.what did your mate have done to get 132 kw?

Quote: Originally Posted by 4dzsuk u laugh at stock vl turbo owners i know which one i would rather out of a vn and a vl turbo. anyways the rb30s make up almost the whole top ten of the fasted commodores in autralia no v6 buicks in there last time i checked. rb30 are way more advanced then those oil leaking buick motors there rough as guts rb30 were the best six ever in a commodore easyily seeing as the buick v6 is an american build you would find BIG HP numbers from the v6 there, here it has not kicked off as the buick was in only a few models wereas over the states it was in a wide range of cars and for long time

this is a VL forum not a VN one, personaly for me i would rather my na calais over a vn anyday i just dont like them at all. and anyone on here that tries to talk up VN's over VL's is gonna get ass raped so why bother lol.

agreed, I drove a VN once and I hope I never have to drive one ever again.

love to hear a worked up n/a rb30 would sound pretty cool id imagine. stock vn's vs, stock mild vl vs, stock vl turbo...who cares they are all slow

hey ppl put my car on the dyno the other day at work and it pulled 129.2 hp at the wheels @ 162 kph and i thought it wasnt that good but obvisly it is pretty damm good its only got a pod extractors and a 2.5 exhaust and only about 85 thou k's

mate we are talkin kw here, mine pulled 123.72 horsepower and 92.26 kw so your was a little better off than mine around 96 kw, not bad man