Quote: Originally Posted by INFLYT The man's on the money. its personal preference. i couldve bought a decent XR6T if i wanted... but i want something that'll be an abosolute *******child to drive on the road and is genuinely faaarken fast. mind you... i wouldnt mind a daily thats soft to drive, feels newish, isnt a boat, and is quick - i guess that rules out the most fords including the XR6T :P bahaha also, speaking of prices, my mates dealership picked up a XR6T ute this week for $13k (had NO RESERVE, was a stolen and recovered from AUCTIONS), only things missing were seats and some other little bits and pieces, it still ran normally etc. can u say profit?

heres a nice example of a beefed up 4.0ltr turbo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUWCo3lDjH8 as well as great KW output dont forget the massive torque these things can produce, in stock form a typhoon churns out 550NM of twist as opposed to the 5.4 boss' 520NM. I'd much rather an XR6T over a VL turb the VL's are quick but obviously have the light weight advantage over the Ford. Ford might have a 4.0l but have a hefty 1750 odd Kg to overcome. Plus as mentioned they make great torque which i love. BTW out of interest anyone know what the quickest VL turbo was in say 1992? Reason I ask is people are getting 9's out of the XR6t and that about 6 years old now, wonder how quick they will get in a few years time

vlcalais8 that might be the case but in 1992 technology wasnt where its at now! the right people can get any car moving quickly nowadays!

Bloody fast time hey? XR6Ts haul ass. I would love a XR6T, but it's pretty unfair on the VL to be compared to it. XR6Ts are 20 years younger, have alot more technology and are alot more refined. Of course you would expect this out of a newish car though. Which is the better car? Personal preference, but you would expect the XR6T to be for all of the above reasons. It's not a fair comparison, because we're talking about two cars with about 2 decades of R & D between them. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by vlcalais8 heres a nice example of a beefed up 4.0ltr turbo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUWCo3lDjH8 as well as great KW output dont forget the massive torque these things can produce, in stock form a typhoon churns out 550NM of twist as opposed to the 5.4 boss' 520NM. I'd much rather an XR6T over a VL turb the VL's are quick but obviously have the light weight advantage over the Ford. Ford might have a 4.0l but have a hefty 1750 odd Kg to overcome. Plus as mentioned they make great torque which i love. BTW out of interest anyone know what the quickest VL turbo was in say 1992? Reason I ask is people are getting 9's out of the XR6t and that about 6 years old now, wonder how quick they will get in a few years time oh dear god that clip is crazy! and at 6700rpm.. what turbo is that btw? its fk'n quite the high pitched sonofab*tch, gotta love engine dyno vids when they have a turbo or 2 and that manifold holysh*T the whole thing goes bright as. and also that yellow XR6T looks tuff with a set of drag wheels on Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by [SLY.747] vlcalais8 that might be the case but in 1992 technology wasnt where its at now! the right people can get any car moving quickly nowadays! Very true all im saying is the VL has had lots more R&D with all its components compared to the R&D the XR6T has had to all its components. Any hows with boostn hitting 7's im sure the XR6T developers still have alot of catch up to do, it will be interesting to see

By me saying that the XR6 Turbo will be the next VL, I wasn't comparing the two, as both have their advantage's and disadvantage's. What I'm saying by that is, once XR6 Turbo's get into that "cheaper" price bracket, they'll possibly be the most popular modified car on the road, because they offer all the characteristic's that make VL's popular, such as a four door sedan that can be made to move quick with realistic money, and can be made to look nearly totally invisible once modified.

Theres no doubt about it.. theres heaps of kids around my area already driving BA XR6's now... Because there only 12-14k now, kids are getting there P's wanting something fairly modern, abit of power and something they can drive under the new P plater laws... No doubt in 5-10yrs time you will see kids hanging out on the hwy in there XR6T's or at your local fast food joint...

Quote: Originally Posted by Spool-Up If 2 cars pull up at the lights, one being a 600kw vl turbo will immaculate paint and body work, and the other being a stock xr6t, guess what, 99% would pick the xr6t as the best car. Of course the vl would be more fun to drive, but thats only one aspect of a cars overall worth. Are u for real ?? I get more looks than most new cars. Definatly a stock XR6T From the outside there pretty boring looking. So are VLCTs in standard trim but a calais with a mega cooler, guages, candy paint slammed etc be the lesser of 2 cars ?? mmm We done quite a few of these at HPF. I remember fitting the de-fillipo exhaust to a few. Great product off the shelf !! Some of them are really fast. Some of them are just crap to We done a kit, stage 3, was rods pistons, plenum, injectors, valve springs + tune. Around about the 370 - 400 rwkw. Mind you $30k !! was a little bit more involved but you get the point. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

You're also comparing a stock car compared to one thats had $50,000+ pumped into it... youd be stupid not to think the VL would get more attention. Depends what you are after though. Alot of people these days want a nice comfy quick car that can be driven to work every day... hello XR6. All comes down to personal preference though.

Quote: Originally Posted by PSIWOG Are u for real ?? I get more looks than most new cars. Definatly a stock XR6T From the outside there pretty boring looking. So are VLCTs in standard trim but a calais with a mega cooler, guages, candy paint slammed etc be the lesser of 2 cars ?? mmm Yes i am for real. Your saying that because your car has gauages and a cooler etc that its a better car haha im laughing. Of course you get more looks, coz its modded, and less of them around these days, doesnt mean they think your cars a better car, and half of them are probably looking at your gauges thinking what a tool you are, (sorry to every1 with gauges, i personally dont like them) And how do you really know that you get more looks than a new car when you have an old car not a new 1?? take a drive in a new performance car like a new v8 or xr6t thats had some mods like lowered, rims and exhaust and see how many looks you get!

LOL, you'll get a few look's...

Quote: Originally Posted by Spool-Up Yes i am for real. Your saying that because your car has gauages and a cooler etc that its a better car haha im laughing. Of course you get more looks, coz its modded, and less of them around these days, doesnt mean they think your cars a better car, and half of them are probably looking at your gauges thinking what a tool you are, (sorry to every1 with gauges, i personally dont like them) And how do you really know that you get more looks than a new car when you have an old car not a new 1?? take a drive in a new performance car like a new v8 or xr6t thats had some mods like lowered, rims and exhaust and see how many looks you get! worked at HPF..... drove twin turbo monaros, blown BA XR8's, Blown R8, rally WRX's with T77 on it, 300 @ 4 wheel kw evo's etc etc etc..... will i go on ?? Guys dont go on about the of course if its heavily modified and the XR was stock. Im going of this line !! "If 2 cars pull up at the lights, one being a 600kw vl turbo will immaculate paint and body work, and the other being a stock xr6t, guess what, 99% would pick the xr6t as the best car. " Ill tell you why I think I get more looks... 1 - My mate who owns a porsche couldnt believe how many people give me a thumbs up or smile when he rides with me. 2 - Do you want me to write a list of the people who ask me when they see it if I can take them for a ride 3 - Last time I took it out car full of blondies, mmm yes please , stoped said beautiful car and blew me a kiss 4 - Im asked like 4 times every time I go for a cruise abou the car, work been done to it 5 - 3 times ive been stoped and asked if they could buy it on the spot do you want me to go on ???? Hey mine isnt anything special.... imagine if it was a rajab car.... imagne if it was candy apple red with TV screen at all corners, etc etc. If your telling me a "stock" xr6" (lets forget the turbo part... joe blow doesnt know the difference from the ourside) would really be classed as the better car ? Sorry you dont like guages on the bonnet. Its a fair call there wearing thin on me to. Brett your def right. Man id give my right nut to have A/C, espically today but I mean from a visual point only. Side by side the Calais IN MY OPINION, would be the classier car. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

PSIWOG- you're preaching to the converted mate! It's only one bloke with a funky point of view, I see xr6t's every single day, the majority I don't look at twice, they're a 40 year old businessman's car for the most part, fairly uninspiring. I will always turn my head to look at a VL, modded or not. To be honest I'm sick of people comparing the two, they are worlds apart, and besides this is the 'other car discussion' section, go talk about VLs anywhere else on the site! How about everyone concentrate on the point of this thread, which is....... This weapon running a 10 flat- Quote: Originally Posted by VKiller Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

they will be like the VL but just a ford version forced induction 6s are so popular when they make then in australia they become classics, just like the VL in 20 years time the XR6T will be just as popular probably running even better times

I agree.. thats one mean piece of car !!! Sorry VKiller, I asumed the concenssos was the other way around. The VL was the boring one ?? Havent been to the drags in a while now, are there a few more of these things apearing now ? Last time I went 6-8 months ago, there were very few. The ones that were running were in the 14s. I know this one is super quick but have the rest of them beefed up lately ? Quote: Originally Posted by VL-Mattuz they will be like the VL but just a ford version forced induction 6s are so popular when they make then in australia they become classics, just like the VL in 20 years time the XR6T will be just as popular probably running even better times better times ?? doubt it. The 4L is a massive engine but the weight of these things is getting stupid. To run a 7 in a XR6 ... god imagine the power needed !!

Well I own both VLT and XR6T, the XR6 is alot better than a VL, regardless of whats been done to it. Still like vl's but reality is many are old thrashed out **** boxes, with some tool behind the wheel.

Quote: Originally Posted by PSIWOG better times ?? doubt it. The 4L is a massive engine but the weight of these things is getting stupid. To run a 7 in a XR6 ... god imagine the power needed !! yea fair enough but even still they will be popular in 10 years time just like the VLs and i agree with you, boostn needed nearly 1000rwhp to run a 7 the bigger XR6T would need insane power lol

Quote: Originally Posted by VL-Mattuz they will be like the VL but just a ford version forced induction 6s are so popular when they make then in australia they become classics, just like the VL in 20 years time the XR6T will be just as popular probably running even better times couldn't have said it better IMO, just that when XR6T's are 20 years old, the VLT(GENIUNE) would be worth more for alot of reasons...

Quote: Originally Posted by omgbt1 couldn't have said it better IMO, just that when XR6T's are 20 years old, the VLT(GENIUNE) would be worth more for alot of reasons... very true lets hope the morons planning to molest thier orig VLT doesnt do so like many allready have