Quote: Originally Posted by moey2385 im all good but wen ppl talk **** i dont like it.. **** off idiot! wow timing is a really hard thing to do, be sure not to get your hands dirty there.. fuel? with a stock n/a comp and no aftermarket fuel reg. what could they possibly do? this is nothing on the workshop just asking? i also have a converted vlct which i use a 3TA comp Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by ATMO_BT1 yeah makes sense a little extra fuel should cool the combuston a bit and ward off detonation hey trust on me on this one, when you have had vlts for almost 12 yrs of your life an had more vlts than you getting drunk on weekends atmo lolol jks, an really havnt had any major problms but anything could happen, if you do a conversion on a tired motor no matter what it wont last long, but if the motor is healthy i dont see why it shouldnt last an go like any other motor.

The only adjustments that can be made are with resistance in the AFM. I still want someone to explain to me in correct terms, how an N/A ecu can possibly have a heavier fuel map than a turbo ecu when the map callibration is for a lower 260cc injector?

Quote: Originally Posted by calais_vl **** off idiot! wow timing is a really hard thing to do, be sure not to get your hands dirty there.. fuel? with a stock n/a comp and no aftermarket fuel reg. what could they possibly do? this is nothing on the workshop just asking? i also have a converted vlct which i use a 3TA comp ok how can you tune it if it has 3ta ecu please explain? il answer it for you, you cant tune no stock vl ecu turbo or non turbo, its timing an fuel mixtures thats all you need to do if there right well thats it, you dnt need no fuel reg mate, but it does help a bit though.

Any one that thinks an NA motor isnt a time bomb is an ignorant clown Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by YEP_boost The only adjustments that can be made are with resistance in the AFM. I still want someone to explain to me in correct terms, how an N/A ecu can possibly have a heavier fuel map than a turbo ecu when the map callibration is for a lower 260cc injector? its like this a n/a under load revs slower then a turbo one the na ecu opens and closes the injectors slower then the turbo ecu so if u put turbo injectors behind a na ecu they stay open longer then what they would on a turbo ecu there for over fuel really badly if you get me and high comps are half a$$ed nuthing more nuthing less you wont find many shops that will do it unless a no warranty card is signed... OH PETE THATS CLASS MAN... HAHA

Charles motor isnt a time bomb at all. Weve had that at 17psi with a high flow! Besides who gives a 5hit when they cost 200 bucks!

Quote: Originally Posted by yellow747 ok how can you tune it if it has 3ta ecu please explain? il answer it for you, you cant tune no stock vl ecu turbo or non turbo, its timing an fuel mixtures thats all you need to do if there right well thats it, you dnt need no fuel reg mate, but it does help a bit though. wow someone that talks and doesnt dribble ****... where did i say that you can tune any vl ecu? all i said is i am running a 3TA with mine!

Quote: Originally Posted by YEP_boost The only adjustments that can be made are with resistance in the AFM. I still want someone to explain to me in correct terms, how an N/A ecu can possibly have a heavier fuel map than a turbo ecu when the map callibration is for a lower 260cc injector? it doesnt have a bigger map ive said that already, but when you got vlt injectors pumping in 280cc an the ecu can only handle 260cc what happens then???????? it runs rich it an burns through the exhaust, an what you mean adjustments only from afm? you have to do the timing aswell its not just afm an from there you go about tuning your car.

Quote: Originally Posted by STONE RACING its like this a n/a under load revs slower then a turbo one the na ecu opens and closes the injectors slower then the turbo ecu so if u put turbo injectors behind a na ecu they stay open longer then what they would on a turbo ecu there for over fuel really badly if you get me Ok, I understand all about duty cycles, impedance and all that crap. But as a map increases the ecu still controls rpm and load points. So technically speaking it shouldnt matter how quick it revs. Are you sure the duty cycles are longer? I would have thought theyd be the other way around?

Quote: Originally Posted by calais_vl wow someone that talks and doesnt dribble ****... where did i say that you can tune any vl ecu? all i said is i am running a 3TA with mine! oh ok well if you got 3ta comp its better but can be done without it as ive had many with no problems an running boost we just sold a black berlina with the exact same setup on 12psi from sydney the guy drove it to carins yes cairns with no problems at all, an i sold another 1 to a guy of this forums with same setup im sure if he reads this he can vouch for this its a rocket an has had for months now an drove it from here to brisbane with no dramas an still goin with no problems its just have to be done right an your all sweet.

Quote: Originally Posted by YEP_boost Ok, I understand all about duty cycles, impedance and all that crap. But as a map increases the ecu still controls rpm and load points. So technically speaking it shouldnt matter how quick it revs. Are you sure the duty cycles are longer? I would have thought theyd be the other way around? if they where you would think it would underfuel i been trying to get info for this for years but havent exact details i,d be keen to find specs on each computer

That is what I thought as well. Hmmm I have a contact with an eprom burner that wants to remap my vl, he said give him an NA ecu as he basically re writes the whole fuel and ign map so I can keep my orig 3ta ECU untouched in case of any issues. He may be able to tell me.

keep us posted

Quote: Originally Posted by yellow747 oh ok well if you got 3ta comp its better but can be done without it as ive had many with no problems an running boost we just sold a black berlina with the exact same setup on 12psi from sydney the guy drove it to carins yes cairns with no problems at all, an i sold another 1 to a guy of this forums with same setup im sure if he reads this he can vouch for this its a rocket an has had for months now an drove it from here to brisbane with no dramas an still goin with no problems its just have to be done right an your all sweet. i dont doubt that champ! i agree with you if you do it right you dont have any problems! i have had mine going for about 8 months now without a hitch! now with hiflow/intercooler and full 3 inch and 10psi and not an issue at all! just dont see how the na comp could be potentially better! from my understanding if you run out of fuel.. pretty much bang

I'll see what I come up with! We may get a big shock!

i didnt say its better mate but i said it can be done an has been done many times thats all, an like i said if its done right it shouldnt run out of fuel, but with your setup you can go more if its all vlt parts on my brothers pink walky which was on this forums a while ago he had 15psi all day everyday but he had all vlt parts ecu an all but na/ engine the car went to darwin an if you look it up you will find it still, it was immac by the time the car got there it through few guys it got run down but still was going we had it like that for 7or8months my a guy rocked up in the car wash an decided to buy it there an then an from there it went to darwin an few people owned it there.

CBF reading the whole thread.... You put a bigger injector in where a smaller one was and the car is going to run richer. Bigger injector programed to pulse for the same period of time as a small injector will supply more fuel, hence why even when you have aftermarket ECU and you go bigger the whole map has to be trimmed to compensate... The VL ECU can now be mapped aswell, there is a place that does it, link is in the S.A section. Looks like a neat conversion anyway, not sure if the power is quite believable on that boost through an auto but im not here to argue. Love the sleeper look.

this is what i was saying before, and got my head bitten off! Quote: Originally Posted by EQUIPD BRO JUST GET ****ED Nice to see you appreciate me standing by you when everyone else has been giving you **** the last few years Chris, why is it these days as soon as someone even asks a question about anything that has close to anything to do with Matouuks you act like they are trying to bag them and go all tuff? I don't think i've ever seen anyone bag Them on this web site, at all , this is Sydney, not Melbourne, all the vlt boys help each other up here! Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

that power reading sounds about right, seeing as though it's high comp.. it's like running 16 psi... rememer the rule of thumb kids, roughly 3psi = 1.0 of compression!