^^ yeah i hear ya.. i once saw a yellow bt1 that was literally battered.. it was being used as a family car by a bunch of yobbo hicks in the outer burbs of melb.. garbage lining all the floor, ripped seats, battered panels, keyed, rusted, badged, everything, literally raped in every sense, and while it made me sad to see it (and F KN angry too) i couldnt help but think how cool it would be to get my hands on it and fully restore it....

Quote: Originally Posted by NZ EVLHSV ^^^^ Not disagreeing with that at all. All I am saying is what�s wrong with a trashed VL? Rust can easily be repaired. And if you want it to go any good then you will have to replace just about everything it came out of the factory with Yeah my VL has rust in a few plcaes, but no where near as bad, as I've seen. I look after it though and get up it sometimes, but as far as doing burnouts and stuff in it, I don't do it (With the expection of a small screechie). Quote: Originally Posted by redVLTjet what you need to understand is that to most people, its 'just a commodore'.. or 'just an old commodore'... we here are vl enthusiasts, so we see them in a different light to everyone else. "one mans trash is another mans treasure" comes into play here... so while we may treat our vl's better than we treat our girlfriends... others thrash them and let them rust up because to them its nothing special... I agree mate. To alot of people they're just an old Commodore, driven by young d***heads, but they don't realise that people actually like and take care of these cars. What I find sad is, that there's newer cars in worse condition then VLs. Like I said before, both of my mate's VSs have blown up and have 10 years on VLs. Actually one has rust appearing worse then my VL. So it's really the way you look after them, because I guarentee a thrashed out, rusted VH or VK would be sh*tloads worse then a VL. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

my n/a vl rips the ass out of both of my mates vt commodores

As long as they are looked after they are probably the most popular Commodore,20 years old this year and are still a cult classic,the 67yo spazza next door says he 'wants my space ship' just give it a polish and its all new again,freaky.

rust can easily be repaired but the cheap aftermarket sils never line up as good as factory

Quote: Originally Posted by NZ EVLHSV If you dont thrash your VL you shouldnt own one. I like that! I like it alot! Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Everyone is into different cars. To us riced up silvia's n others are terrible and the owners should be shot, but they are no different to us. They like the car and are enthusiasts, so in the end it only matters if you like it or not. You dont buy a car and modify it to suit others do you?

Quote: Originally Posted by Pariah082 Who ever started this thread mate - Your a unit. There a VT Commodores that are rusted thrashed POS, its all about how they are looked after. Also - VL's obviously havent had their time - Look at the VIc top ten Fastet Commodores??????????? Matter of fact Look at the Australian top tn Fastest Commodores??? You can thank Nissan for that VL is really not a Australian car when you think of it the Calais is a German Opal design while the drivetrain is Japanese just imagine if the VL's used a VK black motor or buick engine LOL Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

^^^^^^^ your exactly right man, thats the main reason a VL is what it is today, and also the fact that they look ***n mint too, lol

redVLTjet what you need to understand is that to most people, its 'just a commodore'.. or 'just an old commodore'... we here are vl enthusiasts, so we see them in a different light to everyone else. "one mans trash is another mans treasure" comes into play here... so while we may treat our vl's better than we treat our girlfriends... others thrash them and let them rust up because to them its nothing special... u speek the truth redvltjet sum ppl just t8ke vl's for granted cos they see it as a 20 yr old car dont no just a little fixing up of it n\a or tbo'ed they r still wiked cars Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by HDT086 You can thank Nissan for that VL is really not a Australian car when you think of it the Calais is a German Opal design while the drivetrain is Japanese just imagine if the VL's used a VK black motor or buick engine LOL Hahaha the VL is a real mongrel aye? It's a JapaneseGermanAustralian sedan. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.