Quote: Originally Posted by instinct here's mine Stock VT1 GTS 5.7L crate motor, pacemaker 1 & 3/4 headers, twin-cat 2.5" into single 3.5" exhaust, K&N filter & cold air 202rwkws why did we ever drop it thats right on par with the gen3s love it *drool* Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by Sinister why did we ever drop it thats right on par with the gen3s love it *drool* lol, and 1000rpm earlier Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

the stroker sucks down a lot more juice.. and the gen's are lighter.. some of the new gen motors in the states run on 4 cylinders in the city, and when highway driving, but all 8 when your just driving them normally.. Holden have plans to start importing stuff like this in the future.. So they're building the relationship up now!

Quote: Originally Posted by mark the stroker sucks down a lot more juice.. i don't think so Quote: Originally Posted by mark and the gen's are lighter.. true, but the cars their in arn't Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by vlcomm00 vlts do it better Why is it that some people are so small minded that they cant appreciate anything except what they have... VL-T's are great for cheap effective power. But theres nothing finer than a tuff 308/304.. If you've got a thing for turbo's and power.. get a TT Inj 304 or a 671 blown 308.... Great cars guys. And i can vouch for MadVK308's car.. that is one fine hunk of holden glory..

I like v8's and i like VLT's each to there own i guess.. not all VLT's DO IT FOR ME... I like heaps of V8's there is a HQ 383 around the corner from me very nice and another HQ i think it is damm bloody nice cars.. I am looking at a v8 as i am sick of a 6 2 6's and i get bored quick and the VLCT is going well but i just want a V8 hehe damm work all i do is drive around in Gne3's all day bloody long!!!

I have respect for all cars even fords , if someone is willing to put the time & effort into there pride & joy & make it different improve on it then it desserves recognition. But i personally would only be putting time & effort into a holden because thats my only prefference. Most people bag **** only because they have never had/driven 1. But once you've had an 8 theres no going back. [4me anyway]

Heres a pic of my engine. Took it today with my phone, thats why its so small, lol. I was going to write specs, but ive already posted them up in other threads as well . And as my profile says, its a 372 cuber and running about 11:1 comp...... Motor should be going in this week and hopefully the car will be on the road by next week Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by Sinister why did we ever drop it thats right on par with the gen3s love it *drool* *cough* exhaust and tune, 230rwkw *cough* although i love my holden V8s, they are nowhere near as easy to get power out of.. thats not stopping me building this one for my GF (will be running strate gas) and the one for my new VL will have 8 times the amount of throttle bodies my last one did Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

it was interesting to see the power curves for the gen3s at the dyno day when i got 202rwkws, mine was between 10-20rwkws up throughout the whole rev range till it peaked at 4900rpm and leveled of when the gen3s kept going and peaked at 5500ish at 210-230rwkws

Quote: Originally Posted by instinct it was interesting to see the power curves for the gen3s at the dyno day when i got 202rwkws, mine was between 10-20rwkws up throughout the whole rev range till it peaked at 4900rpm and leveled of when the gen3s kept going and peaked at 5500ish at 210-230rwkws weird hey, ive never understood why its like that but everyone knows gen3s just dont have the torque right down low like the holden 8s... but then again they have a far superior factory manifold whereas ours was designed to be a torque monster so that must be the reason, coz they have the technology (roller cam, sequential injection, coil packs e.t.c) and the cubes..

Here's my old baby. Made 267kw at the treads - no blower or turbo either. Just a good 'ol 355 Stroker Aussie V8! - Dave Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by Sinister weird hey, ive never understood why its like that but everyone knows gen3s just dont have the torque right down low like the holden 8s... but then again they have a far superior factory manifold whereas ours was designed to be a torque monster so that must be the reason, coz they have the technology (roller cam, sequential injection, coil packs e.t.c) and the cubes.. we had roller cam too didnt we?

Quote: Originally Posted by Epitaph we had roller cam too didnt we? only in the vts yeah, but even the flat tappet cammed 8s still would own the gen3 to say under 2500rpm, after that they open up and scream past... dont get me wrong, i would love one! most fun ive ever had in a stock car!

2.5" extractors 600 Holley Edelbrook intake manifold mild cam flat tops 2yrs old since rebuild not sure what im goin to do to it next, any suggestions? Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

as with all car mods, how deep are your pockets! EFI top end would bring it alive big time (heads, cam, extractors, harrop/torque power manifold) work it with your carb. wouldnt cost that much if you sold the carb bits to offset some of the price

My VH SLX donk - Stroked and bored 253 - 292 cubes, Chev 305 pistons, 327 rods, offset ground crank,modded quaddy, Crow 222 duration cam, worked heads, blah blah... TEMPA Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

nice cold air tray man, I'm guessing you had it custom made. i want somthing like that ay, got any more pics of the car (bonnet especially)

Quote: Originally Posted by VLV8WA nice cold air tray man, I'm guessing you had it custom made. i want somthing like that ay, got any more pics of the car (bonnet especially) No mate, it is just a HDT branded tray. It isn't custom made. TEMPA Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

heres some before and after kinda pics...and general pics...and scary epa style pics shorts specs of it at the time : VN SS VT 195i 5.0 stock motor Group a injectors Supercharger 5 psi pulley 280.6rwkw with a slipping belt after the pipes are polished: just before a visit to the epa : Some original photos have not been recovered yet.