Na mate no need to be Calais Just need to be S2

did vr calais seats(like natho's) come out in grey colour?

I've got a VS statesman and the seats in it are grey so I'd say the VR calais did get released with grey seats.

There is a guide on installing VY seats to a VL, not quite as straightforward is this is though. Series 1 seat rails are actually attached to the seat base, wheras series 2 (they use a spacer on the passenger side) are not. This is why seies 2 rails are used for mods like this Mick EDIT: Series 1 rails are actually a different design too (drivers side)

Quote: Originally Posted by MadVK308 There is a guide on installing VY seats to a VL, not quite as straightforward is this is though. Series 1 seat rails are actually attached to the seat base, wheras series 2 are not. This is why seies 2 rails are used for mods like this Mick Cheers Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by MadVK308 EDIT: Series 1 rails are actually a different design too (drivers side) if they are different will the s2 rails fit in a s1 without having to drill holes in the floor? and does anybody have an answer on fitting vn/p/q seats? (do they fit up the same) cheers fellas

VL Series 1 seats and rails are entirely different. I suggest guys that you head down to your local wreckers and compare the seats out of an '86 VL, then check the seats in an '88 VL. Headrests are square on Series 1; Series 2 are rounder (very similar, if not the same, to VN headrests). No drilling needed, Mitch, and VN-VS seats will all fit VN-VS. Front seats from VN-VS will fit your VL if you swap the rails around (just swap the entire rail assembly on the VN-VS seat with your Series 2 VL rails). Back seats need to be cut and retrimmed. Series 1 VL seats rails come off in one big piece, where as Series 2 rails can be seperated into a number of sections (making them perfect for retrofitting later model seats by swapping spacers and fittings). They're also held onto the seats with 13mm bolts, rather than 6mm hex bolts (they are the devil).

Quote: Originally Posted by 5spdvl VL Series 1 seats and rails are entirely different. I suggest guys that you head down to your local wreckers and compare the seats out of an '86 VL, then check the seats in an '88 VL. Headrests are square on Series 1; Series 2 are rounder (very similar, if not the same, to VN headrests). No drilling needed, Mitch, and VN-VS seats will all fit VN-VS. Front seats from VN-VS will fit your VL if you swap the rails around (just swap the entire rail assembly on the VN-VS seat with your Series 2 VL rails). Back seats need to be cut and retrimmed. Series 1 VL seats rails come off in one big piece, where as Series 2 rails can be seperated into a number of sections (making them perfect for retrofitting later model seats by swapping spacers and fittings). They're also held onto the seats with 13mm bolts, rather than 6mm hex bolts (they are the devil). beautiful, thats what we like thanks 5spdvl

No problems mate. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

fitted up vn calais seats on friday night they look pretty hot. the swapping of rails took about 10 minutes each, putting the seats in took another 30 mins each (dang) but by far the hardest part was geting the s2 rails, in the rain, removed a set of seats just o find they had s1 rails (wtf?) then had to remove anothr set while it was stilll raining. great mod highly reccomended.

heres what vn calaiss look like in my car - before after <a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x154/SIroller/calaisnshepafterrepair089.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a> Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Nice Mitch, love your work. I borrowed my little brother's grey leather VN Calais seats for a while; they do look sh*t hot. What sort of power window switch are you running there?

Id done this to my vl but have since reverted back to Vl Berlina interior. I cut the foam on either side of the rear case to reduce its size and allow the doors to close without touching then just pulled the material on tight. Also had to do the same with the sides on the back to make more room for the center piece. I made sure i didn�t cut them back so far that they would no longer fit over the wheel tubs. Then for the center i cut and 1" off either end of the plastic while it was still attached but not the foam and pushed it in tight, fixing the plastic to the steal behind the seat. All fit perfect, no bags or stretches in the material at all. Had ppl asking who i got to modify the seats all the time. Heres a link with a few pics. http://www.calaisturbo.com.au/showthread.php?t=83753

Quote: Originally Posted by SIroller fitted up vn calais seats on friday night they look pretty hot. the swapping of rails took about 10 minutes each, putting the seats in took another 30 mins each (dang) but by far the hardest part was geting the s2 rails, in the rain, removed a set of seats just o find they had s1 rails (wtf?) then had to remove anothr set while it was stilll raining. great mod highly reccomended. lol I had the same prob, I pulled a set of seats out of a half crushed car from the wreckers only to find they were series 1 (rest of car looked series 2)

Quote: Originally Posted by 5spdvl Nice Mitch, love your work. I borrowed my little brother's grey leather VN Calais seats for a while; they do look sh*t hot. What sort of power window switch are you running there? no idea its an aftermarket item that came with the car. i thought at the time maybe it was a series one thing, (as my fathers 88 vl has the vl power switches) but later found out the truth. one day i will get it replaced with a stocko one. and cheers for the comment on the seats, grey leather would be nice. tested these seats out last night on mt dandenong tourist road they are nice

looking at doing this conversion?? i have some s2 rails available, also willing to help bolt it all up!

who wants to sell me some s2 seat rails

great thread! i wouldnt mind doin this in the next month or so... but i dont know if i have s1 or s2 seats in my car as i bought these berlina seats($150 bargain!) because the old ones were rooted... see pic, Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

I have just put VR SS seats in the front of my car and its a 86. I didnt have to change any rails or anything. Simply by drilling one hole in the left hand side of the drivers rail to suit the hex head bolt and getting a longer hex head bolt it fits straight in. I started to swap the rails and tracks over but didnt find it to be required. Sure the original track on the left side of the drivers protrudes past the original hole in the floor pan by an inch but it seems theres no reason to go to the trouble of changing tracks. My seats are marked underneath as dec1986 so assume its series 1. I then used some manifold washers as a extra support to the hex bolt but its not required. I will try and get some pics up soon. Just have to get the rear seats altered. Anyone got some pics of the rears in.??

so if you didnt change any rails on either of the seats then the passenger seat will sit too high on the inside. So what you are saying on the drivers side is that you drilled a new hole in the rail to line upo with the hole in the floor? Why woudl you do that when it takes less that 5 minutes to swap over the rail. I recently fitted some VR Senator seats into my VL (86 model) and although I have done this once before it took me only 10 minutes to swap over the rails on the seats so they will fit. Why bother drilling holes, it only makes it illegal that way as you have modified the mounts.