Ive just got the 4 pot all round 343 front and 315 rear off a VX GTS and they appear to pull the VL up really well so these will be insane. I did hear a story that someone put massive brakes on their car and actually failed the brake test for it stopping too quickly, like I said I heard it on the grape vine, so may be a load of sh!t but apparently if it pulls up too quickly its dangerous for other motorist because they can't pull up anywhere near as quick and will run into the back of you

4.11s will be fine with a 6 speed. I have them in my vl with a 5 speed and i like it. I get 230 kph in 4th at 7400rpm. the only problem is the lack of traction in 1st and 2nd but that might be due to the right foot. As for the brakes you will love them. I have 365mm 6 piston ap racing brakes on mine and they are really good. Your rotors are the next size up so they will work well. Enjoy dude.

hdtf-18 i think u did take offence ...? Quote: Originally Posted by VLCT88 [View Post] I would say BT was talking about the HSV Harrop 4 pot brakes all round... which are plenty big enough for a VL. I will be interested to see how the 4.11s go mate, I think you will run out of puff and will change to 3.9s before too long and u could saved money ... thats what i was pritty much saying i wasnt having a dig mate ..

Quote: Originally Posted by BT [View Post] hdtf-18 i think u did take offence ...? and u could saved money ... thats what i was pritty much saying i wasnt having a dig mate .. apologies if it came accross in a different way to what i meant it to.I had searched ebay over and over and all different brake manufacturers sites to see what was out there. When doing so all i really found to be cheaper were brands with no real credible history. Harrop have been around for years and many people swear by them, yeah I couldve got some 4 pots all round and they wouldve been more than adequate but like i also said i'm wanting this one day to be a show car so the 381mm rotors and house of kolor painted callipers will hopefully look sexy as well as pulling it up amazingly well. Yeah the brakes are overkill for the road but who here thT has a vlt with over 200rwkw isnt guilty of that when the speed limits are 40/50/60. flicking through street commodores and every car has the insane engine, nice paint and rims but barely any have brakes that are a feature of the car and that to me shows an opening in the show car arena where it will guarantee some extra points over others. If i was only building the car for performance then yeah i could've and probably wouldve gone the 4 pots all round for sure and you do make a valid point but im just wanting something a bit more eye catching and extreme

dont get me wrong the brakes are horn ive been waiting for a set of 4 pots to come up cheap for myself but its alot of money for brakes when the twin pot vt brake do the job fine imo but if u are going for that show side of things i can see why u went them good to see u are doing good things with your car , iam to lazy lol ,i dont think my car will ever be ready ...............Nek Minute ..........or finally it might make an appearance at the jaf cruise at the end of the year .

Couldnt agree with you more hdtf-18... far too many people build these high horses cars and overlook the braking and suspension system on the car. Its all well and good to go fast but personally I want to be able to stop when going fast! The VT upgrade is the bare minimum you would want do do for a 250rwkw car, these people that run the standard 1980's VLT brake setup are just plain insane/stupid

A lot of us want to be able to put 15" wheels on our cars when we want to go to the drags.

Quote: Originally Posted by TUXEDO [View Post] A lot of us want to be able to put 15" wheels on our cars when we want to go to the drags. You can fit 15's over VT brakes...

I know.. I've got VLT brakes with DBA slotteds, bendix ultimates, VS booster, VT master. Plenty stopping power for street / strip use. I've had VT brakes previously on a VL, I wasn't impressed by them. At the end of the day, it's what you want out of your car. I won't be doing any circuit racing or auto salon..

When I said "VT upgrade" I was also referring to the VS/VT Booster/Master... the VL booster and master is definitely the weakest point of the VL braking system...

Can you get the big brake kits over 17's inch rims?, if so you could always get the GTO american monaro spec 17 inch spacesavers(not the Aus spec 15's) and buy 17 inch bias ply frontrunners for the drags, its what the supra guys in the states use as a cheap drag package, they look not to bad either cheers darren

Quote: Originally Posted by Jet R31 [View Post] Can you get the big brake kits over 17's inch rims?, if so you could always get the GTO american monaro spec 17 inch spacesavers(not the Aus spec 15's) and buy 17 inch bias ply frontrunners for the drags, its what the supra guys in the states use as a cheap drag package, they look not to bad either cheers darren dont think so darren on the harrop website it says the 381mm rotors need 19's as min and just looking on a commodores website where a guy with a ve has the 356mm rotors on rear (same as mine) he said there was about 3mm gap between rim and calliper with an 18" rim on. Ive hear people talking on different forums about some 18's coming out with some ok rubber for the strip. Although as stated this car is mainly for show and street i do still want to get it down the 1/4 mile an with a manual box and over 400rwkw I'm going to need some slicks and hopefully there is some solution without having to take brakes on and off

probally not, drag radials it is..lol, otherwise it might end up in the wall, and its to nice for that to happen... cheers darren

just got a pic sent through a progress pic of the engine bay after being sprayed. havent seen in the flesh yet but think it will contrast the red on the brakes really well and cant wait to see the silver pearl through it http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/1259/img0440bi.jpg

I think i saw this outside of a crash shop this arvo out North way... I wont say where (just because of the $$$ of parts), but looked mint just cruising past if it was!

Quote: Originally Posted by xctmnt8 [View Post] I think i saw this outside of a crash shop this arvo out North way... I wont say where (just because of the $$$ of parts), but looked mint just cruising past if it was! yeah mate thats the one and thank you for the respect of note announcing which shop it's at as it is now really starting to add up! ---------- Post added 08-01-13 at 18:32 ---------- some more pics i took on camera when i went to the shop http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/727/img0285u.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img341/2179/img0273yc.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img809/1576/img0277fe.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img811/8636/img0280zg.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img22/727/img0285u.jpg

That's a nice blue, not the original imperial or eucumbene blue though is it?

Quote: Originally Posted by TUXEDO [View Post] That's a nice blue, not the original imperial or eucumbene blue though is it? nah mate was going to go monte carlo blue from the 2010 m3 but when at the spray shop and i was looking through colour samples i actually picked out a metallic blue which is used on the new mini and has quite a bit of silver pearl through it to brighten it up. almost gives it a kandy type look. the rest of the car (the whole outside) is in the original vl blue

So you're only getting the engine bay done, not the whole car?

If u dnt mind me askin how much it cost u to get it done.. U can pm me if u like cuz im up to that stage of pullin th engine out n doin th bay..