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15-01-12, 17:25 GMT+10#61 so you can fit any type of glide?
and can the std torque converter be used or does it have to be custom?
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15-01-12, 22:16 GMT+10#62 Quote:
Originally Posted by vl_gigalo
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so you can fit any type of glide?
and can the std torque converter be used or does it have to be custom?
you'll need rb30 to powerglide, two halves of the converter are different
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16-01-12, 06:37 GMT+10#63 i have a brand new transbraked 1300hp powerglide for sale for $3000, suit chev pattern.
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16-01-12, 10:08 GMT+10#64 Anyone recommend a good shop in Sydney for a 2 speed rebuild?
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16-01-12, 17:27 GMT+10#65 Quote:
Originally Posted by robp30l
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Anyone recommend a good shop in Sydney for a 2 speed rebuild?
Fred @ Protrans is really good!
http://www.protrans.com.au/
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17-01-12, 08:22 GMT+10#66 No doubt a powerglide is a great box but i have noticed alot of pro drag cars in the USA going to 3spd transmissions, especially the 10.5 tyre cars...
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17-01-12, 08:35 GMT+10#67 Quote:
Originally Posted by MICKYYYY
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No doubt a powerglide is a great box but i have noticed alot of pro drag cars in the USA going to 3spd transmissions, especially the 10.5 tyre cars...
the more gears you have the more time you spend in the optimal rev range of the engine
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18-01-12, 08:15 GMT+10#68 Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverCal
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Fred @ Protrans is really good!
http://www.protrans.com.au/
ill go see Fred next week. cheers
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18-01-12, 17:04 GMT+10#69 Quote:
Originally Posted by vltrb-0
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the more gears you have the more time you spend in the optimal rev range of the engine
Thats is always a good thing....
With a 3spd do you get to the higher rpm range quicker as well???
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18-01-12, 19:18 GMT+10#70 If i was to get a Holden 6cyl powerglide with a bell housing adaptor & rb30 to powerglide converter, would this be sufficient for mostly street driving??? (Knowing that it will need to be rebuilt later on to handle more power)
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18-01-12, 19:34 GMT+10#71 Quote:
Originally Posted by MICKYYYY
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Thats is always a good thing....
With a 3spd do you get to the higher rpm range quicker as well???
Depends on convertor and gear ratio's... but revs dont get you anywhere, torque does. Often people go slower when turning the engine harder.
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20-01-12, 09:01 GMT+10#72 Quote:
Originally Posted by PROGMH
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Depends on convertor and gear ratio's... but revs dont get you anywhere, torque does. Often people go slower when turning the engine harder.
What i mean is say if you were to compare to exact same engines making 500hp but one engine get's to 500hp quicker, which means quicker down the track...
Does this also apply to 2 or 3spd trans???
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20-01-12, 09:14 GMT+10#73 Quote:
Originally Posted by MICKYYYY
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What i mean is say if you were to compare to exact same engines making 500hp but one engine get's to 500hp quicker, which means quicker down the track...
Does this also apply to 2 or 3spd trans???
you can't look at it as simply as that, its about trying to find a balance
but generally the more gears you have the more time you can spend making good power and get down 400m faster
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20-01-12, 09:26 GMT+10#74 Quote:
Originally Posted by MICKYYYY
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What i mean is say if you were to compare to exact same engines making 500hp but one engine get's to 500hp quicker, which means quicker down the track...
Does this also apply to 2 or 3spd trans???
As above, it's not so simple. It's about the torque curve and how the power is made. You could have a 500hp engine that makes fat power from 3500-6000rpm and another car making 500hp with power from 5000-6500rpm.
I'd rather have a fatter mid range than a higher power figure.
My set up for example. With a GT42 made around 340rwkw... at 6000rpm. But it was only making 200rwkw at 4500rpm. Now with a smaller turbo it's getting that 200rwkw the second you touch the pedal and it's up on the convertor. It makes for a much much better drive, power is way earlier and the band is from 3500+ instead of nearly 5000 upwards.
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20-01-12, 10:22 GMT+10#75 Quote:
Originally Posted by PROGMH
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As above, it's not so simple. It's about the torque curve and how the power is made. You could have a 500hp engine that makes fat power from 3500-6000rpm and another car making 500hp with power from 5000-6500rpm.
I'd rather have a fatter mid range than a higher power figure.
My set up for example. With a GT42 made around 340rwkw... at 6000rpm. But it was only making 200rwkw at 4500rpm. Now with a smaller turbo it's getting that 200rwkw the second you touch the pedal and it's up on the convertor. It makes for a much much better drive, power is way earlier and the band is from 3500+ instead of nearly 5000 upwards.
not to mention the higher your stall speed of the converter to get into that power curve the less usable revs you have and you also have higher drive line losses due to that
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22-01-12, 12:07 GMT+10#76 gday all
looking at buying a powerglide for the build im about to start shortly.as i know nothing about these boxes i have a few questions hope someone can help.the car will be used for drags,dyno runs and play time. first in hoping to get around 750 rwhp e85 with a 150 hp shot of nos from a 30/26 it will have a pump tune of around 450/500rwhp. would a box built for 850hp with all the bells and whistles do the job.the bloke ive been speaking to reckons they are built to handle 1000hp does this sound right. do most builders under rate their boxes.second what is straight cut planetary and whats the advantage.last does Neals build a box to suit an rb or would i need to modify it when it arrives.
cheers donk
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22-01-12, 22:18 GMT+10#77 Quote:
Originally Posted by donk
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gday all
looking at buying a powerglide for the build im about to start shortly.as i know nothing about these boxes i have a few questions hope someone can help.the car will be used for drags,dyno runs and play time. first in hoping to get around 750 rwhp e85 with a 150 hp shot of nos from a 30/26 it will have a pump tune of around 450/500rwhp. would a box built for 850hp with all the bells and whistles do the job.the bloke ive been speaking to reckons they are built to handle 1000hp does this sound right. do most builders under rate their boxes.second what is straight cut planetary and whats the advantage.last does Neals build a box to suit an rb or would i need to modify it when it arrives.
cheers donk
800hp is the average conservative rating for non straight cut standard planetaries
anything more than that is getting into straight cut gears and another $600ish
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23-01-12, 05:45 GMT+10#78 Also, buying a box rated to 800hp, then throwing 1000hp at it and complaining to the guy when your box breaks will be fun.
I had an auto builder trying to push back on me that my engine was exceeding his gearbox strength recommendation... until I showed him the engine dyno print.
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23-01-12, 06:04 GMT+10#79 Quote:
Originally Posted by PROGMH
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Also, buying a box rated to 800hp, then throwing 1000hp at it and complaining to the guy when your box breaks will be fun.
I had an auto builder trying to push back on me that my engine was exceeding his gearbox strength recommendation... until I showed him the engine dyno print.
i had a box built rated at 800 engine hp and the builder said the box will be good for that
i sold the box and the guy i sold it to put it in a car making 500rwkw
ran a 9.5 with it and was transbraking at 22psi
that far exceeds what my builder was committed to covering and just reflects how different people rate the same box differently
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23-01-12, 10:27 GMT+10#80 im know thinking of going down the 1200hp glide track im thinking better to be safe than sorry and bigger is better.whats the advantage of straight cut planetary
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