Quote: Originally Posted by hemi_val [View Post] http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/tee...-1226091455101 (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/teen-denies-being-a-hoonette/story-e6frf7jo-1226091455101) Hoon law #3,447 - Being seen entering, purchasing fuel or leaving Warrigal Rd Shell will under all circumstances result in heavy penalties.

Quote: Originally Posted by FORZA [View Post] I never said they were my friends. But no, you're ignorant because you believe that just because it's not plastered all over the news that it doesn't go on. Not at all. Infact its been reported since hoon laws there's been a decrease in high speed pursuits.

Quote: Originally Posted by PROGMH [View Post] Everyone keeps saying that people will run... has anyone done it? There hasn't been a snigle reported example of someone doing a runner because their car will get impounded or crushed. And who will admit and confirm people are evading and escaping police in police chases? This will be shameful on the police and will give others who need that little edge extreme confidence to try it next time out. And to admit to it means you're guilty and i guess we have some that are just that tad bit smart about bragging... Just like those Police TV shows, they only show the people they catch, never the people they don't... ---------- Post added 11-07-11 at 19:10 ---------- Quote: Originally Posted by PROGMH [View Post] Not at all. Infact its been reported since hoon laws there's been a decrease in high speed pursuits. Says who, former chief in command Simon Overland? ---------- Post added 11-07-11 at 19:15 ---------- Quote: Originally Posted by FORZA [View Post] I never said they were my friends. But no, you're ignorant because you believe that just because it's not plastered all over the news that it doesn't go on. Exactly. You plaster the fact that people are escaping and everyone will do it and try their luck. Same with drug baron, we are shown Border Patrol/ Border Security shows where they catch people, yet how many people successfully smuggle drugs and contraband into the country illegally? I don't think you'll see government officials/ customs telling the public how many people illegally smuggle drugs into the country nor will the media be stupid enough to publish such stories.

Quote: Originally Posted by dvs_wgn [View Post] **** that's a bit heavy for having a sneaky Power nap like the advertiseing tells us to do if we are a little tyred.. Tyred from all the tyres he was frying earlier?

AVL wrapped it up pretty nicely. I don't think it would be in the interest of the government to be reporting on statistics that don't agree with their agenda. Can you also see the media doing a backflip on the hoon laws after plastering hoons the cause of all of Australia's problems? Would make them look pretty stupid so I doubt it.

Quote: Originally Posted by aus880 [View Post] I never said you claimed burnouts were ever legal re race track etc nothing will satisfy some, the next complaint would be that it's too far away or too expensive or not open 24/7 the simple fact is that there's already no excuse for that on public roads, 99.9% of the population isn't interested in doing them and wants drivers who do them and similar off the road 99.9%? Where are you getting these percentages from lol..

I'd believe that 21,780,280 people dont give a f about burnouts out of more than 22 million..

I agree with the hoon laws and I myself have been done for hooning (2 yrs ago), I just think that there is not enough money put back into race tracks/events to create a solution. . If you banned kicking a footy on the street but there was only five football ovals in Victoria I garuntee people will rather go out for a quick kick on the street than drive an hour or more to do it on one of the five ovals. Caulder park is great for drag racing and is the only venue in Vic that I am aware of holding consistent weekly events , and it's still over an hours drive to get to for me , then there is winton race way which is 4 hours away . Sanddown raceway is close but when is there events there ?? Wher is the public skid pans ?? Why isn't there adds on tv encouraging hooning at these venues show ppl going sideways and racing and having safe legal fun in a controlled environment have famous drivers(F1,v8 supercars, WRC, drifters) on the adds encouraging such events if these events were created and advertised i believe hoons would rather go there than risk it on the street and loose their car. I attend Caulder park every few weeks to race and spectate it's fantastic it's safe fun and most of all LEGAL

Quote: Originally Posted by PROGMH [View Post] Everyone keeps saying that people will run... has anyone done it? There hasn't been a snigle reported example of someone doing a runner because their car will get impounded or crushed. i did...i went to court.. they never got my car.. haha.. f**k them.. just think.. every time a cop has some1 pulled over for "hooning" some poor bloke is getting his head stomped on in the city.. or some poor girl is be assaulted. or some junky is smackin up in a kids playground...the police need to focus on something that matters..not wasting there time with hoons... hooning has been happening for the last 50+years nothing will ever change.

Quote: Originally Posted by jayb [View Post] i did...i went to court.. they never got my car.. haha.. f**k them.. just think.. every time a cop has some1 pulled over for "hooning" some poor bloke is getting his head stomped on in the city.. or some poor girl is be assaulted. or some junky is smackin up in a kids playground...the police need to focus on something that matters..not wasting there time with hoons... hooning has been happening for the last 50+years nothing will ever change. Yeah they do need to focus on more important matters but, those matters don't make them any money unlike "hoons". Are they going to get any money from arresting a junky smacking up in a kids playground? nopeee they go where the money is its all about the $$$$$ these days they couldn't really give a **** about a junky smacking up or some drunk's kicking each others heads in, in the city.

Who has the video of the motorbike evading police on that Police Patrol show where the copper yells ram him ram him? The one i had has been removed off of youtube due to copyright infringement. Video evidence of people evading police. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=242Yq...layer_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=242YqeItGnE&feature=player_embedded)

Quote: Originally Posted by jayb [View Post] i did...i went to court.. they never got my car.. haha.. f**k them.. just think.. every time a cop has some1 pulled over for "hooning" some poor bloke is getting his head stomped on in the city.. or some poor girl is be assaulted. or some junky is smackin up in a kids playground...the police need to focus on something that matters..not wasting there time with hoons... hooning has been happening for the last 50+years nothing will ever change. you really have a simplistic and incorrect view of crime and how police work the police focus on a wide range of things as they are expected to do incl anti social driving behaviour btw police and govt get no money for solving murders either but they still solve lots and lots of them and it costs them enormous money to do it and traffic stops regularly lead to a range of other crimes being solved since crims tend to also break lots of traffic rules as well as commiting crimes like assault/robbery etc

jayb - so you got in to a pursuit but didn't get your car impounded at any stage? What other rammifications were there?

Quote: Originally Posted by aus880 [View Post] you really have a simplistic and incorrect view of crime and how police work the police focus on a wide range of things as they are expected to do incl anti social driving behaviour btw police and govt get no money for solving murders either but they still solve lots and lots of them and it costs them enormous money to do it and traffic stops regularly lead to a range of other crimes being solved since crims tend to also break lots of traffic rules as well as commiting crimes like assault/robbery etc It would appear more of that focus has been toward (hoon) legislative anti social behaviour, non of which i have a problem with but when will we see similar legislative changes to other facets which are plaguing our communities and societies? We as tax payers fund the government and to an extent police to keep our country in order. It costs them money to uphold the course of justice (not pervert it alas corrupt police officers during Melbourne underground war) and it sure would be pretty concerning if they (the police) only solved severe criminal cases provided they were paid to do so... but then again they are paid, doesn't the government keep the proceeds derived from criminal activities and obtain assets from murderers to pay for damages etc?

AVL hit the nail on the head.

http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/art...test-news.html (http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/article/2011/07/14/357625_latest-news.html) A MAN is dead after a high-speed police pursuit involving stop sticks in Victoria's northeast early this morning. He reached up to 130km/h in the chase from Benalla to Glenrowan before ploughing into a tree just outside of Wangaratta, the Herald Sun reports. The drama started after police spotted the blue-coloured Mitsubishi Magna with number plates believed to be stolen. Officers activated their lights and sirens in a bid to pull the car over in Benalla but it sped off. Police started pursuing the car about 2.25am, heading north along the Benalla-Winton Rd, which turns into the Glenrowan-Winton Rd. The driver, in his 20s, reached speeds up to 130km/h but slowed through Glenrowan - the town best known as the scene of Ned Kelly’s last stand. Police unsuccessfully used stop sticks – a strip thrown on the road with barbs, teeth or spikes pointing upwards to deflate tyres – at the corner of Wangaratta-Glenrowan Rd and Wangaratta-Main Rd. The Magna drove around the sticks and continued for about a kilometre before veering off to the right of the sealed bitumen and hitting a tree near Delloro Rd on the outskirts of Wangaratta. The car caught fire and police pulled the man from the car just after 2.30am. The man died at the scene a short time later. His death brings the road toll to 169 – nine more than this time last year. Read more at the Herald Sun. If this man got away would they have reported it?

Quote: Originally Posted by AVL012345 [View Post] It would appear more of that focus has been toward (hoon) legislative anti social behaviour, non of which i have a problem with but when will we see similar legislative changes to other facets which are plaguing our communities and societies? Are you sure it's only because you're in the Car community that you hear about it more often. How often have you gone searching for legislative changes that are affecting the other problems in the community?

Quote: Originally Posted by Bax [View Post] Are you sure it's only because you're in the Car community that you hear about it more often. How often have you gone searching for legislative changes that are affecting the other problems in the community? I guess it could be, i won't argue with you on that, but when it's plastered all over the news it's a bit hard to miss, no? When they're made they are usually announced, when's the last time you heard of one that was in your view for the better? The latest one made was in regards to taxation... carbon tax Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by FORZA [View Post] I know several people who have done the runner to avoid getting done by the hoon laws. Some got away, some got caught. Either way the motive was to avoid having their car or bike taken off them. Don't be ignorant. +1 There is a regular cop chase down here in thomo LOL