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Originally Posted by Duke57TT
Doesnt a stock 35/40 1.06 rear flow about 65lb per minute of air. Enough for maybe 350-400rwkw?
Port the comp housing gains about another 40-60hp worth of air.
Whats that kind of hp worth in a VL time wise? Probably gain a few mph with a manual aswell.
the .82 's do 400-410rkw pushed and
the 1.06 seem to do 430ish rwkw pushed hard in a manual car.
of course it depends on dynoes, yada, yada ,yada, thats what i have seen
and in other cases aswell on other dynoes.
The manual would be worth more than a 2 mph at that level
i can't see why it woudn't be a 3540???
cheers
darren
this thing must be using a massive shot of gas 300hp , if he needs a bottle, let me know, i have about 487 in my car he can use. haha jks
top effort!
sams looks almost excited to be back behind the wheel of a vl from those pics.
Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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Originally Posted by Jet R31
the .82 's do 400-410rkw pushed and
the 1.06 seem to do 430ish rwkw pushed hard in a manual car.
of course it depends on dynoes, yada, yada ,yada, thats what i have seen
and in other cases aswell on other dynoes.
The manual would be worth more than a 2 mph at that level
i can't see why it woudn't be a 3540???
cheers
darren
agree with u there my car made 418rwkw with a 3540 and an .82 rear the power curve and how quick it came on is deadly on the street though lol
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jet R31
the .82 's do 400-410rkw pushed and
the 1.06 seem to do 430ish rwkw pushed hard in a manual car.
of course it depends on dynoes, yada, yada ,yada, thats what i have seen
and in other cases aswell on other dynoes.
The manual would be worth more than a 2 mph at that level
i can't see why it woudn't be a 3540???
cheers
darren
Sweet as I was just taking an uneducated guess. I didn't take into account rev's versus air swallowed with HP being a calculation of torque versus rpm. Bigger cube stuff swallows the air easier but doesnt rev as hard so you have a much higher torque value but not HP. The same turbo wouldn't make that kind of RWKW figure on a bigger cube engine would it? I was thinking if i can add up right I would start sucking the two 35/40 I have backwards at around 17 odd psi up high and would only make 650rwkw @ 7200rpm at most but the torque should be a silly.
This might be a stupid question but how much more MPH do you reckon the stick is worth over the auto?
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Originally Posted by GMHBT1
didnt bigpsi run 9.8 and 142mph on 3540 on .63 housing in his car.
its was only the shells it was gutted and had a custom jpc core in it l carnt say wat it was thats upto mark
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Originally Posted by sohc30
Very impressed with what these turbo's can produce,Ive heard Rajab's ran 10.0 with a 600hp GT30.82 too....
It just goes to show that with a decent cylinder head you don't need to go so big with the turbo as the engine is becoming more efficient.
Mark
and like every one else it wouldnt be a stock turbo
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Originally Posted by Duke57TT
Sweet as I was just taking an uneducated guess. I didn't take into account rev's versus air swallowed with HP being a calculation of torque versus rpm. Bigger cube stuff swallows the air easier but doesnt rev as hard so you have a much higher torque value but not HP. The same turbo wouldn't make that kind of RWKW figure on a bigger cube engine would it? I was thinking if i can add up right I would start sucking the two 35/40 I have backwards at around 17 odd psi up high and would only make 650rwkw @ 7200rpm at most but the torque should be a silly.
This might be a stupid question but how much more MPH do you reckon the stick is worth over the auto?
I thought it would, it would just have less restriction, as even though there
is less revs, it is swallowing a ****load more air. And boost pressure at the end of the day is just showing restriction, the more you run the more restriction there is. I am pretty sure actaully that the original GEN-T kits with the 3540 1.06 made ,really high 300's(370-380ish) through autos on 10psi or something and they had a little left to give still.
cheers
darren
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Originally Posted by Jet R31
I thought it would, it would just have less restriction, as even though there
is less revs, it is swallowing a ****load more air. And boost pressure at the end of the day is just showing restriction, the more you run the more restriction there is. I am pretty sure actaully that the original GEN-T kits with the 3540 1.06 made ,really high 300's(370-380ish) through autos on 10psi or something and they had a little left to give still.
cheers
darren
Yeah the big problem is though, you start moving right on your compressor map, making the turbo inefficient. Less timing more fuel hot intake charge. The high dyno readouts with the Gen-T kits was a certain person trying to make himself look better than the kit really was.
just found this thread now,love the modified standard plenum and use of the factory manifold ... deffo 1 off the better vl's,in both power and use of factory supplied items!! props to the owner!!!
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Originally Posted by Duke57TT
Yeah the big problem is though, you start moving right on your compressor map, making the turbo inefficient. Less timing more fuel hot intake charge. The high dyno readouts with the Gen-T kits was a certain person trying to make himself look better than the kit really was.
Understand that, but ithought some other people made the same type of power with the kit(jake perf?), no?, what was the typical range they made?
cheers
darren
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Originally Posted by Jet R31
Understand that, but ithought some other people made the same type of power with the kit(jake perf?), no?, what was the typical range they made?
cheers
darren
Oh Canberra has favourable dyno readings to alot of other places.... Its the altitude. The software in the DD dynos makes compensation. Low barometric pressure. Regularly see mid 800's. I will get shot for saying that though. For instance my bolt on 5.7 made 267rwkw on VP109 and 13:1afrs and about 28 deg of peak timing. We where really leaning on it though. I would say that would be closer to 250rwkw as I could only ever manage 112mph at the strip.
Also if you dont strap a turbo car down, they tend to read 20rwkw higher
Gen-TT common rwkw levels was anywhere from 300rwkw to 340rwkw. If you screw it into them with timing and good fuel you will see 360 or so. TTR sized turbos with C16 or better have seen up to 460rwkw on a stock motor.
Gen-T was around 330rwkw in the real world on the 35/40. When they moved to the T51r you could drag up to 450rwkw out of them.
Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
is there some kind off secret why maatouks is pumping out these quick manual cars. i have always seen the potential with the manual and thats why i built one myself. but is there some secret suspension set ups or anything like that why hasnt this been done before
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Originally Posted by 7FOUR7
of course there is, otherwise don't you think all the workshops would pump out 9sec manuals?
im thinking its the driver
and there hasnt really been that many big power (400+rwkw) manuals in the past.
Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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Originally Posted by 86psi
is there some kind off secret why maatouks is pumping out these quick manual cars. i have always seen the potential with the manual and thats why i built one myself. but is there some secret suspension set ups or anything like that why hasnt this been done before
car bonnet is open every meet you can take photos every question has been answerd about the maatouks cars apart from engine comp i wouldnt say there hidding much if anything there hidding less