No way that can cover all P platers, how is it they said it was ok to modify your cars because it was legal, then say take it all off! We don't care how much it cost but we changed our minds! New drivers will have to cop it sweet but it sounds like. Also, PM sent Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

lol meh i drive a camry as a daily and the VH probly wont be finished until im off my Ps anyway so im not stressing too much itl be legal for me to drive it when it is on the road, but fk, new P platers are getting fked up

Yeah, problem for me is that my daily will be a VH SL/E V8. haha. I'm fkd. But i've had my license for 10 months anyway. I'm thinking that i'll keep the VL off the road untill i'm on my full licence if they won't even let me *** have a intercooler.

Quote: Originally Posted by HDT-VLCLE haha, i'm "moving" to S.A. for 1 or 2 days, transferring my license to S.A. and uh, forgetting to change it back i think its only valid in vic for about 3 months or so Quote: Originally Posted by HDT-VLCLE Ha it's probably still worth it, even get S.A plates on your car, now that would be mad. Cops wouldn't bother So with these new laws, are they saying that if your on your P's still, you can't in anyway whatsoever modifiy your car to increase performance? How about a air filter? Will they ream me for that saying I added .2rwkw to my car's performance? The people who came up with these laws and those that inforce them (it's an occupation, its still their ****ing choice) probably couldn't tell their lips from penis. ****ing ****smokers, the lot of them. lol technically they can still dik ya for the filter lol, oh no the power increase of.2rwkw is way to much lol makes such a difrence, stupid stupid vic roads Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

i thought i got sucked in for not being able to drive v8's, turbo or chargerd cars... but from what i can see with the new law... im bloody thankfull.. ahahaha... i do occasionaly drive my dads ls1 and just love it... im still spewin about the no turbo pr charger laws but hey... gettin a kerfew or however you spell it is worse off... loll.. i feel sorry for anyone that gets em after july...

haha on adelaide license, i can drive ANY CAR too turbo,v8,supercharged.. also no power to weight ratio... DRIVE ANYTHING Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by patch i was driving on a freeway up to the north coast when i was on my reds, i tried to stick to the 90km/h speed limit in the left hand lane but after getting tailgated by semi's and being nearly run off the road by semi's trying to overtake me i thought f*ck it, its much easier to keep up with the traffic that is so true its scary when the truckys come up behind you expecially when they are impatient ones

It's just a copy and paste of the current NSW Provisional licencing system... it's not that bad apart from the whole no turbos/v8 thing full stop. Nothing wrong with Green Ps... you don't get targetted nearly as much as reds as coppers at least know you didn't get your license last week..

ill ask again - how do we get free green P plates? register online? email some cunt? what?

I guess VicRoads would send them to all P platers registered on their database who got their Ps before 01/07/08. Quote: Originally Posted by HDT-VLCLE Yeah, problem for me is that my daily will be a VH SL/E V8. haha. I'm fkd. But i've had my license for 10 months anyway. I'm thinking that i'll keep the VL off the road untill i'm on my full licence if they won't even let me *** have a intercooler. Kyle, you'll be fine. You under the power to weight and capacity to weight ratio. I'm sure a sluggish old VH SL/E will be under on both counts.

going by the current laws, if you got your license after july 1 2007 it says you cant modify your engine, have police actually been enforcing this and has anyone actually been fined or heard of it happening?

http://www.calaisturbo.com.au/showthread.php?t=135142 i wanted to know the same thing man but fair few ppl got off topic lol

more *** bullsh1t , i get my p's in feb 08 so atleast i avoid some of the crap, freekin dogs

so let me get this straight... this is what ive known all along...ive made sure to understand this all perfectly. after july 2007 the new Ls (logged 120hours etc) and power restriction laws (no turbo/blower/8+cylinders/mods) came in. after july this year the new graduating licence system comes in where new p platers (under 21) get stuck on red Ps (P1) for (atleast) one year and if they have a good driving record they "graduate" to green Ps (P2) for 3 years...so after july new p players will have be on their Ps for ATLEAST 4 years. if you're over 21 you go straight to green Ps for 3 years. i got my Ps in june 07 so im on for 3 years with reds and im free to drive my supercharged calais. so now all they are doing is sending current (pre-july08) p platers green Ps so that its easier to determine new P1 drivers (licenced after july08) from current p platers. (licenced before july08) despite green Ps being ugly, it makes perfect sense for us current p platers to get new green Ps so cops know we got our licence BEFORE july08. since new drivers (after july08) will be on red Ps (P1) we are given greens to seperate new p platers from older p platers. but it would have made more sense, logically and financially, to just give NEW p platers (after july08) the green Ps for one year so that the thousands of current p platers can stay on reds until we qualify for our full licence. no-one is even on green Ps yet so isnt it easier to just give new drivers the greens (and graduate to reds after one year+good record) and leave the old p platers on reds? its just a total waste of time and money getting current p platers just to swap the colour of their plates. but for those of us who will be forced to swap to greens, thats all that will be happening. that doesnt mean all the new laws (incl. power laws post-july07) will apply to us. i got my Ps before july07 so even though ill have to swap to green Ps after this coming july that doesnt mean im no longer allowed to drive my supercharged calais. all that is changing is the colour of our Ps, whatever laws currently applying to you stay the same after july. wouldnt it just be easier to give a new unfamiliar colour plate to new unfamiliar drivers and leave the old drivers on the old colour. stupid total unnecessary waste of time and money. what bunch of idiots got paid to come up with this brilliant idea?

i got my Ps june 2006 so will this apply for me also or not

adz3174 your right on the money, makes no sense but i guess we are going to have to deal with it ay Quote: Originally Posted by IMFSTR i got my Ps june 2006 so will this apply for me also or not yes it applys to everyone on their p's

lol fuck, this has full wrecked any understanding of the law that we had

despite the governments stupidity (and ugly green plates) annoying and frustrating me to no end...im just glad i dont have to give up my car. id stab cunts if they let me fall in love with my calais for the past year then say i cant drive it once i switch to green (effectively P2 under new laws) i just read through the whole P plater section of the arrivealive site to assure myself i can keep my car. this is it in a nutshell: all current p platers will be given green Ps (P2) so as to determine us older P platers from the new (after july08) p platers who get reds (P1) for, atleast, one year then can graduate to greens (P2) for another 3 years. NOTHING CHANGES APART FROM THE COLOUR OF OUR P PLATES. if you got your licence before july07 (like me) then you're restricted ONLY by the old power-weight/capacity-weight ratio laws, and will continue to be after being switched to greens for the remainder of your probationary licence. THIS DOES NOT MEAN CURRENT P PLATERS LEGALLY DRIVING TURBO'D/BLOWN/V8/MODIFIED CARS WILL BE FORCED TO GIVE UP THEIR RIDES. if you got your licence after july07 then you're stuck on the new power laws just like all the new drivers will be, but you're NOT stuck on the laws that will apply to new p platers who are licenced after july08. whatever laws that apply to you now will stay the same when you switch to greens.

adz3175 mate you are a legend... ahaha made it clear as... i got ppl on msn stoogin me sayin this and that and what not and yeahh.. i got confused for a sec.... thanks for clearin it up... atleast the new p plate will go with my car.. ahaha.. green car green p plate.. ahha.. wooo

some people just dont understand ive gone over it with them a million times and they just sit there with a dumb look on their face its not that hard to understand