<--------- (looks at display pic) need i say more SL's FTW everybody goes for having the best of things in life i like the average joe side of things (talking about vl's) also most calais power options dont work properly in most of the calais ive seen like the windows go2 slow or the mirrors dont work sometimes the cruise control doesnt work sometimes the lights dont pop up or on the other hand go down 2 much bullsh1t for my liking and sl parts a cheap ________ BMW R100S (http://www.cyclechaos.com/wiki/BMW_R100S) Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

wasnt there a grandpa spec "vacationer" exec or something?

Another volte for the Calais here.... Have owned/own (probably forgot a couple) VL Calais N.A. 6cyl - S1 VL Calais N.A. 6cyl - S1 VL Calais N.A. 6cyl - S1 VL Calais N.A. 6cyl - S2 VL Calais Turbo 6cyl - S1 (current) VL Calais 5L S2 - S2 VL Calais supercharged EFI 5L - S1 VL SL Turbo - (unsure of series) Brother has VL SV88 - S2 but they have group a type trim (this car is awesome) SO as you can see The SL Turbo just never felt like home.... not for me anyways There's been VC'c VH's VK also... and I gotta say the VH SLE's are awesome...defintely one of my fave first gen commodores.. anyway back on topic... Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by EAT-30T SO as you can see The SL Turbo just never felt like home.... not for me anyways true my old one i loved it to bits but twas no calais Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by benjipsi true my old one i loved it to bits but twas no calais Oh there was NO love between us.... just hate... we almost punched on once Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

i think nutting it down to body options etc is a bit extreme. but the walkinshaw realy was its own car, as was the calais, and the sl and the berlina. there are a couple of others that were their own car. your poll is more suited to "favourite base attainable vls" because lets face it. how many of us here can tomorow be like **** it ill buy a SSA walky? haha? the walkinshaw is one of my fav cars of all time too, but hdt le calais.. thats some sexy sexy car too. btw, i have a calais, that came factory with the hdt le kit hehe. sexy cars, love sitting in it hehe.

Quote: Originally Posted by HDT-VLCLE That sort of made sense A BT-1 is a S/L that has been special orderd by the police with different options. Say, you have two identical S/L's, every last detail, the only difference is one say's BT-1 on the tags - the other one has been mocked up to look the same. Which is worth more, and why? And before everyone says "zOMG because theyre yellow bro" lets just say theyre both white. Is a stock VLT really worth that much more just because it says "BT-1' on the tags? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder its sad but yer .. stupid people pay $10K + for the bloody striped out ****as .... got me buggered to Quote: Originally Posted by PLZB-18 <--------- (looks at display pic) need i say more SL's FTW everybody goes for having the best of things in life i like the average joe side of things (talking about vl's) also most calais power options dont work properly in most of the calais ive seen like the windows go2 slow or the mirrors dont work sometimes the cruise control doesnt work sometimes the lights dont pop up or on the other hand go down 2 much bullsh1t for my liking and sl parts a cheap all my electrics work, millors, windows, boot release, and the headlights started working after i washed the engine bay hahahaha Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Id have to say the Calais, its the front bar and lights that do it for me, always have

Quote: Originally Posted by PLZB-18 <--------- (looks at display pic) need i say more SL's FTW everybody goes for having the best of things in life i like the average joe side of things (talking about vl's) also most calais power options dont work properly in most of the calais ive seen like the windows go2 slow or the mirrors dont work sometimes the cruise control doesnt work sometimes the lights dont pop up or on the other hand go down 2 much bullsh1t for my liking and sl parts a cheap And this surprises you after 19-21 years? Most of these things are easily rectified too, either a worn motor for windows and lights, or wiring, or even the bailey's for the windows when the felt wears off and they get a bit hard and cause too much friction for the window to travel smoothly. I'm lucky, my Nov '86 Calais has everything working for now, though the windows are on the slow side, they move every time the switch is operated, pop ups work fine, power steering squeels every now and then but I think that's the way I fitted the belt, have to look at it again. Not arguing here, just saying that not all of them are stuffed, and most are a simple fix, the owners just need to get busy. As I said earlier, I'm a fan of all VL's, well except the ugly ones that people molest and turn into shitters. One thing, I've had 2 VL's now with power mirrors, do they normally squeel thier tits off when operated? Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by Waughy And this surprises you after 19-21 years? Most of these things are easily rectified too, either a worn motor for windows and lights, or wiring, or even the bailey's for the windows when the felt wears off and they get a bit hard and cause too much friction for the window to travel smoothly. I'm lucky, my Nov '86 Calais has everything working for now, though the windows are on the slow side, they move every time the switch is operated, pop ups work fine, power steering squeels every now and then but I think that's the way I fitted the belt, have to look at it again. Not arguing here, just saying that not all of them are stuffed, and most are a simple fix, the owners just need to get busy. As I said earlier, I'm a fan of all VL's, well except the ugly ones that people molest and turn into shitters. One thing, I've had 2 VL's now with power mirrors, do they normally squeel thier tits off when operated? yer man i think thats norman ... mine do it ... im going to take off the covers and use some bearing greese on the work gears. thats should make them quiet + smooth Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

I'm going to have to go with a Series I SL for obvious, and not so obvious reasons. It's lighter, brakes better, has bigger seats and the interior wears better. The Calais just seems very fragile by comparison. From interior trim (too scared to lean on the fabric for fear of wearing it out) to exterior chome (always the first to get bashed in a carpark) the SL just seems a lot more hard wearing and easier to keep in one piece. Problem is the Calais gets more looks. Grrrr ! Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by VLTWhite1 I'm going to have to go with a Series I SL for obvious, and not so obvious reasons. It's lighter, brakes better, has bigger seats and the interior wears better. The Calais just seems very fragile by comparison. From interior trim (too scared to lean on the fabric for fear of wearing it out) to exterior chome (always the first to get bashed in a carpark) the SL just seems a lot more hard wearing and easier to keep in one piece. Problem is the Calais gets more looks. Grrrr ! mines got 20 years of wear and interior is amazing, hasnt been babied. Ill post some pics when i get home Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Personally, i dig SL turbos and the LE Calais would be my fav amongst Calais Models.

yer le's are dam nice !! I love the grils

Calais because any other model looks like an overgrown camira at the front.

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Quote: Originally Posted by calais25t Calais because any other model looks like an overgrown camira at the front. the amount of times ive seen a camira in the distance and thought.... wonder if its a turbo pmsl Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by EAT-30T Oh there was NO love between us.... just hate... we almost punched on once Bahaha i can relate Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by VLTWhite1 I'm going to have to go with a Series I SL for obvious, and not so obvious reasons. It's lighter, brakes better, has bigger seats and the interior wears better. The Calais just seems very fragile by comparison. From interior trim (too scared to lean on the fabric for fear of wearing it out) to exterior chome (always the first to get bashed in a carpark) the SL just seems a lot more hard wearing and easier to keep in one piece. Problem is the Calais gets more looks. Grrrr ! Here are some pics of my calais interior. There isnt a mark anywhere on it. Its 132,000km genuine and has been looked after from day 1. The ashtray has never been used, and EVERYTHING works. I think its a mater how you treat the car over the type of car that determines how long your trim lasts. Just to prove this i added a pic of my daily driver, a verada (just involved in accident ) that is just about to hit 400,000 km, and is spotless inside (floor mats are shocking i know !! haha) To say the calais is not "hard wearing" is just silly. I do agree that my seats need a steam clean ill pull them out while im doing all the turbo manifold when the weather heats up so they can dry ...... Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

thats what my interior kinda looks like at the moment, (apart from i broke the glovebox catch, so its sitting in my boot, and the center console is broked from when i put the gearbox in (dont ask)) and the ONLY wear on my interior, is a little rip along the stitching on the drivers seat, and apparently its done over 280k kays before i got to it