Quote: Originally Posted by WooD mate you got no idea! all cars that are fitted with a cat from the factory have to retain it! do you see the e-gas falcons with no cats for example? show me ANY car that is made after 1986 on straight gas that has passed. go have a read of ADR 37. also ENOTB, it is 01/86 so looks like no luck. What does an E-Gas falcon run on? Petrol AND gas... What I stated above was told to me by a gas fitter.. But I mean ****, he could have been wrong but yeah, thats just what I had been told Not having a go at you mate. Quote: Originally Posted by TWO89 This was brought out over 50 years ago and is no longer valid! The government agreed on it for a certain amount of years and then never re-did it. That was the whole reason they bought out LPG to start with, it didnt cost them anything to produce as it is a bi-product of making petrol. However there is nothing stopping LPG prices from rising to any level. My mistake then, didn't realise this was the case. Any idea as to how long it was in place then? Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

gas will go up if everyone uses it if they stop using pedy it will go down esy fellas no win eather way

well it's official 2K grant for a gas conversion on an existing car, probably a dece idea, even though gas will go up, eventually the fuel is gonna rocket due to lack of oil. So i reckon get it while you can

ok. Maybe not as much as pech but still more than usual. I am still not convinced about this payout. There hasto be some kind of catch i just cant trust someone with eyebrows that size...

Quote: Originally Posted by WooD mate you got no idea! all cars that are fitted with a cat from the factory have to retain it! do you see the e-gas falcons with no cats for example? show me ANY car that is made after 1986 on straight gas that has passed. go have a read of ADR 37. also ENOTB, it is 01/86 so looks like no luck. Incorrect. Running straight gas means you can skip all emissions gear, including catalytic convertors.

My prediction - petrol stations better get more LPG pumps or there's gonna be a lot of waiting... Who wouldn't convert? It's gonna take an unprecedented gas shortage for LPG prices to catch up to ULP (which is trended to continue to rise), irrespective of the government's planned increase of the tax on LPG. Plus there's a huge difference in emissions and therefore environmental impact. Sure beats buying a Prius....

all the people that like that idea are all suckers for lil johnny's taxes you see, gas is cheap now, he is tryin to get MORE people on lpg BUT! what they dont say, you use WAY more lpg than petrol, my falcon v8 was cheaper on petrol than lpg why? you use that much more gas... u gotta run gas valve seats you lose half you boot space bad tune and ur stuffed you cant fill up on the sie of the road a few years after that gas conversion money comes in, how little johnnie will start an excuse on lpg and over 5 years will be like 15 cpl! he can shove it up his arse, im sticking to ulp

like has been said earlier in the thread, if you cant afford to put fuel in your VL, then you cant afford to keep the car

Well think about it if he lashes out the money for all these lpg installations he will be getting all his spending plus a lot more back from the mechanics fitting these lpg systems via there tax. His looking is looking for ways to line his greedy little pockets and he cant control u.s oil prices because its out of his hands but lpg is made right here in australia and thats something he can control both via price hikes at the bowser and via the extra money that will be generated from tax from the workers making it as a lot more people would be needed to make it to meet demand. Everybody think yaayyyy its all great now but watch and see there faces later on as the **** hits the fan with big price hikes and stuff.

there are straight gas e-gas falsons built. and about the cat, been told by one of the guys at the EPA about that and he said if the car came with it, then its still gotta have it, even if on straight gas.

little jonny howard is going to use our tax paying money for the rebait just so he can make more money for him self in the long run.It the old saying you gotta spend money to make money but insteed hes using tax payers money more than likely.

Quote: Originally Posted by jeff3ltr Well think about it if he lashes out the money for all these lpg installations he will be getting all his spending plus a lot more back from the mechanics fitting these lpg systems via there tax. His looking is looking for ways to line his greedy little pockets and he cant control u.s oil prices because its out of his hands but lpg is made right here in australia and thats something he can control both via price hikes at the bowser and via the extra money that will be generated from tax from the workers making it as a lot more people would be needed to make it to meet demand. Everybody think yaayyyy its all great now but watch and see there faces later on as the **** hits the fan with big price hikes and stuff. yep "However, whilst LPG is excise-free at the present time, there are plans to introduce an excise on LPG of 2.5 cents a litre in 2011 which will increase to 12 cents per litre (as opposed to the 38 cpl excise on petrol) in 2011." http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20105651-2,00.html

12 cents of excise if better then half like on ULP That excise has been announced for ages, like I said earlier. If anyone remembers, they wanted to tax it more but all the Taxi drivers cracked the ****s and said it would put them out of business, hence the 12.5cent increase. There's a lot of urban legend about gas still around. Good I say, means I can get it, no one converts, and I get cheap fuel. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

well seeming everything you buy go's to lining the gubberments pockets i dont see the difference, When you get Gas conversion you can still keep running on ULP anyways, Yes it's true some cars can use up to twice the 'fuel' usin gas but with a correct tune you'll prolly only use 1/4 more than ya would on a tank, My WB v8 (253) used to use a tank of gas from Perth to Bunbury which for an 82 v8 aint too bad also ULP is taxed at 38% :P They could always go the other way and start using Ethanol...

Johnny is a ****wit he sells our gas to asia and other countires for 8c a litre with stupid 30yr contracts.. and he wants to reem his own people by taxing us etc.. **** smoker

Actually we sell gas to China for 3cents a litre

Bingo. need to build ur engine for LPG if u want big power its like anything. If u want the most outta it, build it for it. Its not about the savings either, its more about ease to FULLY ENGINEER and the potential outta PUMP gas is much better then normal pump petrol Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

hehe well thats it... A person who just wants to run gas would not have an idea... The reason why fords GAS only car's do run pretty good and get alot of kms to a tank is becuase the motor is built to run GAS only... But your avarge joe cannot afford to convert to gas and have the motor rebuilt to run it.. But i do know what you mean but others wont... That is the problem gas is not good as a dual fuel system its either one or the other...

Yes Either straight LPG or nothing Dual fuel sucks b@lls lol Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

What a load of crap this thread is with stupid opinions. If you were PM and australia is pressuring you into giving answers and helping out what the hell would you do? He cannot control petrol prices, so he assists with gas installations. It's for every joe blow going to work each day, not designed for everyone wanting to convert thier 10 second VL to gas (even though that's not a bad idea). Instead of worrying about who's making what, think about this, you're getting rebated $2000. You will pay less for fuel. How many other governments have done something like this for australia? And for those that ARE wanting to convert thier VLT to gas for emissions reasons, why not get given 2 grand!? It's not the whole cost involved, but sure as hell helps!