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Tech Article: EFI 304 into VL

Started by PROGMH · 12 Mar 2008 · 263 replies

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injv8LEArchived member
how has everyone done the center console? im using the vn shifter and im keeping the vl console. i was wanting to keep it as origional as possible. any ideas?
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NZ EVLHSVArchived member
Auto?
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injv8LEArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by NZ EVLHSV Auto? yeah mate !!!!!!!! pics would be good too........
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NZ EVLHSVArchived member
Don't have any pics, but I put an auto in mine first when I did the conversion. Use the VN shifter, VL auto surround and a VN auto P,N,R,D,3,2,1 plate thing. Remove the VL P,N,R,D,3,2,1 plate thing (sorry don’t know what to call it) as this is where the shifter comes up, then fit the VN plate thing on the other side
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xeturboArchived member
Hows it going, im halfway through doing my 5 litre conversion and im just wondering if it is actually worth wiring up the injection, or selling off the intake manifold, injectors etc, and buying a good carby manifold and a decent carby? for those who have wired the 5 litre up themselves is there much to it? as far as i can see looking at both wiring diagrams there are only a couple of relays and a few power/ earth connections and it should all be good? What do you guys recommend?
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NZ EVLHSVArchived member
Depends on what you want out of the car, carby will make more power cheaper, but I reckon EFI is nice to live with
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xeturboArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by NZ EVLHSV Depends on what you want out of the car, carby will make more power cheaper, but I reckon EFI is nice to live with basically im just after a neat cruiser/ daily. Ive got the complete engine loom and ecu etc so I guess it really depends on how difficult it is to wire the ecu up, if it proves too much of a headache a carby setup might be a better answer, also it makes the car look more "standard" so to speak.
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gambleArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by VPCALAIS5 nice set up ! will post pics of mine when its done. hey just started the conversion starting with a na 6 and have heard people speakiing of a mod to the trans tunnel to fit the auto in anybody able to shed a little info???thanks
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YBJLS4Archived member
gotta bash the floor in on the drivers side to clear the tranny lines and tranny filter
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gambleArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by YBJLS4 gotta bash the floor in on the drivers side to clear the tranny lines and tranny filter thanks and my motor came with a set of vr pacemaker headers will these fit and should i convert it to vr power steering or just use the vl power rack....thanks....
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YBJLS4Archived member
whould be fine with the vl one cos from memory its smaller so it should clear, whereas the vr one has like a relief valve on it that may clash, i may be wrong though
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Psi_WagonArchived member
they wont fit, u May get lucky with the vr/vn power steering but i doubt it. even if you did the above you will have to change K frames to the vn.
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gambleArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by Psi_Wagon they wont fit, u May get lucky with the vr/vn power steering but i doubt it. even if you did the above you will have to change K frames to the vn. yeah im using a vk k frame , so the headers prob wont fit ay.... i might have to use the top half and fabricate my own bottom half......and whats the go with the t700 ive heard of blokes getting rid of the speedo sensor and fitting a cable straight in the box is this right?.... sorry to hassle ya but cheers for the help....appreciate it
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VLC_88_5LArchived member
question, i am thinking of changing my carby 5l to injected but also want a manual fitted as well, has anyone done this or similar that could help me know what I'm up for in price and time thanks in advance.
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Phase5Archived member
just bought the whole driveline, vq statesman complete, vs ss T5, 9 inch detroit locker, chipped and re-mapped computer. i already converted my old engine to manual T5, but blew the box and clutch cuz of the stoopid *ucking mini spool. so i decided to do the whole lot in one go. im writing everything down as its done and posting photos up, prices, in and outs, all ya need to know. but bear in mind im starting with a factory 5 litre calais, so certain things will NOT be relevant to guys who have a 3 litre. ive put aside 3k for parts, auto elec, and mechanic, but i am putting everything in myself. just having everything wired and hooked up after the transplant. will post all details in next 2 to 4 weeks. cheers.
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slik_asArchived member
Just put a VS 304, electronic turbo 700 in my VL calais. having a few issues. Just test drove the car again but still does not have 1st, Has 2nd when manually locked back but no kick back at all. It is going into 4th at speed but only under no acceleration, as soon as I accelerate it's dropping back to 3rd. Any suggestions? The power/economy switch and diagnostic link have been connected now but still no different.
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Psi_WagonArchived member
do you have a speed input to the ecu? pin A10
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HK_LS1Archived member
got my vl 5.0ltr going... using the engine n manual from my VP calais... just wondering... why is my clutch so light? its adjusted n everything... my brother reckons its because the cable has less tension where as it was tighter in the VP because it was bent around sh!t... its too light for my liking..... and my clutch is heavy duty.
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xeturboArchived member
Just wondering if anyone has used the complete body loom from the donor car into their vl? I was going over my original loom and its very ratty and I was thinking it might be easier to just use the whole body loom from the VN and put it in into the vl, that way all the ecu and the engine etc will be all wired up easily. From what I can see the only issues/ things that would need attention would be the heater controls, headlights, wiper motor and the ignition? surely these could be easily connected to the factory switches? Also by using the VN body loom you could insert the VN dash cluster into the vl surround like the picture shown already in this thread, im thinking the the rest of the loom would very easily connect up to the existing lights etc, and the fuse box would fit neatly under the dash like they do in the VK's etc and the vl even has room? Would be good to get feedback from this approach. Could also be possible to use the whole VN dash, surely the front window area didnt change too much from the VLs?
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wilson33Archived member
A couple of questions: 1. Can a VP donor car be used? The first post only mentions up to VN. 2.With the new ECU, what exactly needs to be done? Do you need all the associated wiring that runs to it ect? Or is it just a plug in and go? May be a dumb question but i seriously have no idea haha. 3. Is the 1 inch master cylinder standard on the 5L commodores? So i can just grab the one off a donor car. Quote: Originally Posted by PROGMH - VN V8 accelerator cable (you may need to cut it to fit) - you may also need to swap the body loom as some v6 ones arnt the same Im also curious about these 2 parts. Can anyone confirm or deny what happens with the VN V8 accelerator cable? Does it need to be modified? Also has anyone had any problems using the VL V6 body loom?
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