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Tech Article: EFI 304 into VL

Started by PROGMH · 12 Mar 2008 · 263 replies

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YBJLS4Archived member
Help with this thread please... http://calaisturbo.com.au/showthread.php?t=179195
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NinoVltArchived member
iam looking at doing the conversion.. how do i go about keeping the vl dash and making it work with the conversion???? thanx iam looking at doing the conversion.. how do i go about keeping the vl dash with doing this conversion n how much am i looking at to get it done etc..?? thanx
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wilson33Archived member
Depends what box you use i think, but you may need the overly expensive converter from CRS or CAE.
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40calaisArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by wilson33 A couple of questions: 1. Can a VP donor car be used? The first post only mentions up to VN. 2.With the new ECU, what exactly needs to be done? Do you need all the associated wiring that runs to it ect? Or is it just a plug in and go? May be a dumb question but i seriously have no idea haha. 3. Is the 1 inch master cylinder standard on the 5L commodores? So i can just grab the one off a donor car. Im also curious about these 2 parts. Can anyone confirm or deny what happens with the VN V8 accelerator cable? Does it need to be modified? Also has anyone had any problems using the VL V6 body loom? vq cable went straight in. no cutting
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demoArchived member
couldnt find anything in here about wirring up the easiest way??? i started a thread http://www.calaisturbo.com.au/showthread.php?t=182183 if some1 can answer my questions would much appreciate it...
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MakArchived member
I'm thinking of doing this to my VP, was wondering the degree of difficulty and if there are any common issues to look out for?
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40calaisArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by PROGMH I thought I would put all of the info from alot of threads together so that people can use this instead of starting 5+ threads a week asking the same questions! Can this be made a sticky in the V8 Section Its not all my work but I grabbed alot of info off everyone - so thankyou to those who have previously helped out - mainly CHEETR The things you will need to put an injected 5 litre into a VL are: - EFI 5.0 + TH700 auto - ECU - K Frame (VL or VN V8 - VN V8 one is cheaper) - 1inch Master cylinder - Headers - Exhaust (exhaust shop) - Engine Loom (VN V8) - Radiator (VL V8) - Cold air intake (optional) - Tail shaft (Custom or use a V8 TH700 front tail shaft and a VL rear tailshaft - can anyone confirm this?) - VN V8 accelerator cable (you may need to cut it to fit) - you may also need to swap the body loom as some v6 ones arnt the same also when going through the trouble of doing this i usually buy all this gear aswell for it - New engine mounts (VL V8) - New crossmember mount for the gearbox (VN V8) - new plugs - new leads - New dizzy cap - Coolant for the radiator - new Pulley belts - New Panel Filter - Flush the radiator - clean the throttle body out - Dump the oil and put new gear in - Service the tranny, can buy tranny service kits if its a auto. If you're going for the TH700 then youll need to beat the floor up a little to fit it as its a larger box than the ones VL's had. You may also need to get a VN V8 dash as it has the speed sensor in it that the auto elec will need to make things work - saves buying the part that replaces it for over $200! You dont need to install a VN dash into your VL but you will need the speed sensor that is in the VN dash for everything to be wired up correctly. If you dont have one of these its just another cost when you see an auto electrician and they need to purchase the part that does the speed sensors job. (Cant remember what its for or what its called... can someone help?) Youll need to run a fuel return line to the tank / surge tank if you dont already run EFI. If you're running an N/A 3 litre then you will need to upgrade the brakes to VL turbo or VL V8 or better as well as upgrade suspension to handle the extra weight and power of the replacement motor. If starting with a VL V8 you will need to move your battery to either the boot or to the other side of the bay because it will get in the way of the EFI 5.0 air box. This info is the same for VN - VT 5 litre conversions of both Holden and HSV motors! If I've missed something please let me know or if you have any tips and Ill add them. It just saves us reading a heap of threads and answering the same questions on a daily basis! If someone has a step by step picture sequence then pass them onto me and ill work them into it. Brett CAN YOU PLEASE ADD WIRING DIAGRAMS FOR FACTORY6 &8
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PROGMHArchived member
Anyone have the wiring diagrams?
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A XLR8RArchived member
I need some help, doing the conversion myself atm. Using a vt 5.0l and getrag with hydrualic clutch setup. Was wondering how go about the slave cylinder? do i use a vl one ? or the vt getrag one? any help would be great thanx guys. cheers, Loki ---------- Post added 28-03-10 at 18:56 ---------- Anyone?
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NinoVltArchived member
doing the conversion next week.. using a turbo 400 just wondering what i have to do with the speedo cable etc.. and were do i get the parts from. thank you
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tabArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by PROGMH [View Post] Anyone have the wiring diagrams? I HAVE DONE A WRITE UP REGARDING WIRING FOR A INJECTED 5 LITRE CONVERSION HERE`S THE LINK: http://www.calaisturbo.com.au/showth...85#post2442785
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FLY-03LArchived member
Interested in doing this but not for many a year... Still on red Ps Id be using a manual box, mostly liking sourcing the injtd.5000 with a factory T5.. I dont know if it has been discussed before, but how does the T5 gear shifter go with lining up with the factory manual VL gear boot and associted gear lever travel in each gear as id like the keep the interior factory spec... Spose a short shift kit could fix any travel issues (2nd hitting the hand brake..?) But will it line up at all? Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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Psi_WagonArchived member
the walkinshaw gearbox's are T5's arnt they? it should fit up just fine
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NZ EVLHSVArchived member
Walkinshaw are T5G
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FLY-03LArchived member
T5's were used in the VN-VS series 1 V8s correct? So does that give me an answer, are the T5 and the T5G the same box externally? Anyone out there in calaisturbo land that does the conversion with a T5?
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BoyracerArchived member
They look similar, there is some conjecture over which one is better as the VN on is newer, the one in mine is a VP box and the transmission tunnel needed massaging for the speedo drive clearance. The shifter came up near the same spot as a MF5 so I used a six shifter surround that needed cardboard in the clips so it didnt pop up when you shifted, I also tried turning the rubber boot, it looks factory and is ok now.
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NASTY1Archived member
hello all im looking at droping an injected 5.0 into my vl. i have an after market ecu in vl now whats needed to be done to put the efi v8 computer into my vl?
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BoyracerArchived member
To use the V8 comp you will obviously need a V8 harness so you will have to pull the old one out.
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NASTY1Archived member
ok but what bout the other wiring on my microtech? im unsure how the wiring works. from what i gther the loom comes from eng to ecu but does any other wiring comeinto my aftermrket ecu that could have been rewired?
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BoyracerArchived member
Its your car, have a look, I thought after market programmable ecu negated the need for the delco so what you need to find out is your computer going to run 5.0 injection.
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