Quote: Originally Posted by VL-RACER take it like this, you get a 450KW V8 and a 600KW turbz and take them to a race track for a 50lap race, the days heat is 25, i can tell you right now that the turbo will only complete about 15laps befor its dead that would have to be the most un-educated reply ive seen in a while

VL-RACER That would have to be the most un-educated person ive seen in a while.

Quote: Originally Posted by Blink VL-RACER That would have to be the most un-educated person ive seen in a while. i wouldnt mind meeting him actually, and have a civilised 'chat' Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

5 pages and this thread is still goin strong...lol! Its pure Gold... VN-1986 I know exactly what youre tryin to say..same thing I was tryin to say and VQ304 you summed it all up nicely...lol.

my best mate's VX SS with ls1edit or a cam (seller didnt know which, but it was dynoed at 236rwkw), difillipo extractors into a dual 2.5 in zorst felt heaps faster off the line than my vn 5 litre. You got a big ass shove in the back as well - only problem is that it sounds fairly pussy at idle and low revs - I like how you can feel my engine idling I thrashed an SL VLT with a front mount and a 5 speed a couple of weeks back, surprised the hell out of me because i thought a mild vlt would beat a mild 5 litre any day, especially with the 3.45 gears, but there you go. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

i had a 202 N/A in my commo that pushed out over 160kw with $1500 worth of parts in it and with the trimatic did over 220km/h. When looking at an engine conversion i wanted a stonking big v8 but just couldnt afford it in the end and so went for a turbo, i looked at a lot of sources like zoom magazine which has excellent build ups of engines each issue. Nothing beats the sound of a big V8 and i believe they have more potential, for me it came down to what i need at the time with the money i have, both have +'s and -'s.. I know this comment comes abit to late but 'lets not get involved in a **** slinging atch here' arguing about this is like trying to tell a rotor head that rotors are **** ;-)

at the end of the day its not what kind of engine you have its how much money you are willing to sacrafice..you can make a shopping trolly go fast if u wanna spend money on it .......it's all down to personal choice if every body loved turbo's it would be a very boring world and we would be deprived of some awesome cars...

its all about the vL Turbo! ssssssstuuuuu tuuu tuuu!!! sounds a sh*tload better than rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! i think v8s suk but thats just my opinion...so yer.. go the VLT or anythn 'T'

Wyndup ( Player ) Join Date: 01-03-05 Location: Adelaide, southern Car: Berlais Turbo 12.0@115mph+'92 N14 Pulsar 'Q' SR power baby... Trader Rating: (0) Quote: Originally Posted by holdonv8 The 5 litres definately provide more noticable low down torque compared to the LS1s... The LS1s now theyre f ukn 'laggy' on the other hand they do love to rev... __________________ Nothing smart to say... what i have s2 vy ute with only exhaust and monaro air box and no vl turbo has beaten me any where off the lights or at any point. my mate has the rb25 in his and spent 8k on it and he wasnt even with in a car length away. please dont diss ls1 they are made as a family engine and have way more pottential than the rb motors For a motor with the twice the cubic capacity of the RB30, the LS1 would wanna have more potential! And I do agree, potential is the word...hang one of those massive GT turbos off one and theyre a weapon as i witnessed at the last street meet at AIR with the LS1 Edit tonner running some strong MPH. I used to work at Metro Holden and drove heaps of them things mate, they did not inspire me one bit, even the 300 GTS felt doughy, having said that they are deceptively quick for the fat boat they are...they just dont have that low down torquey feel to them like a VN SS did and still does. Youve got youself a mid to high 13 second car in that ute...dont kid yourself. Darren. __________________ My car for sale, see for sale section......... thanks darren,lol like i said they are a family package engine my point is they are good for what they are and what they are worth 4500 for new motor in crate, for a decen`t turbo your looking at 2000 aren`t you. thanks buddies jason

cant believe this thread is still alive..

Quote: Originally Posted by quick6 at the end of the day its not what kind of engine you have its how much money you are willing to sacrafice..you can make a shopping trolly go fast if u wanna spend money on it .......it's all down to personal choice if every body loved turbo's it would be a very boring world and we would be deprived of some awesome cars... yes but even a shopping trolly has its limits