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hahaha wow yours is almost finished too, great! just in time for winter like mine :/
matt (holdenon) thanks for the advice, i guess everyone is right, ill just drop the oil now, put in the recomended oil (regardless of whats already in there) and see what mick at ovaboost says.
just hoping that the ecu is all good, i cant tell whats going on with it atm.
Matt do you know much about the big autometer tachos? like the one you had and the one i have? because its not reading right? im thinking because it came off a v8, and now its on a 6cyl, its not reading the revs right because its thinking it needs 8 fires, instead of 6? it certainly is about bang on 3/4 of what it should be reading... is it easy to change?
For the tacho there are wires at the back, if it came off an 8 you will need to rejoin that wire and cut the one for the 6cyl, cant remember what colour it is off the top of my head, ill have a look at mine and get back to ya! edit: mine has the brown wire cut
For the oil i would run mineral oil for the first 15-30 mins of running with a magnet on the filter, then drop it and fill with more mineral oil for a 1000k's, then id switch to a semi synthetic or full synthetic oil, most of the bed in of the rings will be done in the first few hundred k's, well thats my opinion anyway..each to there own i guess!
Hey Jack, as per SilverCal, I think he has it right with the tacho. I didn't install mine, I had my best mate do it as he is an auto electrician.
With regards to oil, ask Mick before putting any other viscosity and type in. I do know that you shouldn't just put in synthetic straight up, but using running in oil is not good as per Mick because its like water. And it actually seems like it is too thin.
Talk to Mick and see what grade oil you should put in and when.
Seems like your almost there mate. Hopefully the little dramas stop and you get this beast running on full boost in the near future
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what ecu are you running jack?
microtech lt16s
yeah, i expected some problems, and its actually been quite funny, i was afraid of big expensive problems, so far the problems have cost nothing, but instead wasted almost a months time haha. just how it goes, so agitated just want to drive it.
just hoping for good luck from here, atleast for a little while...
ill be dropping the oil on tuesday, and hopefully sorting out the tacho at the same time.
got the oil, lee said penrite hpr 60, so i got that, just about to drop it.
lee said **** it chuck 18 pounds in should be right haha, so ill wait till friday at ovaboost, get mick to make sure its all running good looking ok and if everything is good im thinking 10psi low boost, drive it around for a while, 18psi high boost, i
ll flick the switch when im comfortable with how the car goes. still probably go for a reletively "safe" tune, i dont want to squeeze everything out of it just yet anyway, with the possibility of 5 or so more psi to be pushed on 98 out of the 35/40 ill save pushing it untill we know how the car behaves.
very nervous about police etc, not that i drive it like a maniac but getting bent over by the cops would be the end of this project untill 2012 i reckon, would take a good year and a half to get it all sorted...
Oh so you're not running it in now ?!
Burnout vids !!!
(contrary to the above lol)
Don't worry about the police, don't do anything silly*
*silly includes: driving during 'yellow sticker time' (ie: friday nights etc. NIGHT cruises can be 'dangerous', but it's a risk some are willing to take), going on roads where there can be booze buses etc. oh yeh and skids in public. Also maintain appearance of ones VL goes a long way, including engine bay
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Haha I work most weekends anyway, so hopefully that will keep me off the road at bad times.
As far as I'm concerned over 800kms is enough of a run in, add the couple of hundred kms done by the previous owner and I reckon we're home. Just want to do more than 3 and a half thousand Roma, even if I'm only using 10psi.
its alright, i have hpr 30, i just remembered the big gold number on the bottle, i
-all i did was called the person who put the motor together, sanders, and wrote down what he said, then went and bought exactly that. wouldnt get anything other than what is recomended by those who put the motor together.
though thankyou unseen for pointing that out, would have been a pretty big mistake.
the positive re-enforcement from fmx is fantastic too, quick google of "penrite hpr 60" shows they dont even stock an oil of that grade.
fingers crossed everything goes to plan this time round, if the computer packs it in well know i have serious issues elsewhere. im sick of waiting now though, done so much procrastinating over the last few months about this bucket. got a million more things that i need to do or sort out with the car from this point forwards its nearly making me dizzy when i start thinking about... i do appreciate the helpful answers up from those of you who've kept up with my ramblings to this point. especially those who pmmed me with good bits of info. i do realise alot of my questions were easily answered, and most of them were pointless even to ask, because the decisions were already made or other factors would give only one result anyway some of the questions i even already knew or had then answers, but i was just seeking oppinions anyway. honestly, all i've had to do for the last 6+months is talk... hopefully alot of that can stop when the cars up and running
dont want to get too far ahead of myself, but next up is suspension i reckon... considering going coil overs, so i can adjust it for street/strip duties as i'd rather drive the car to the track, change wheels, and race it, either way theres a bit of work involved in that, and right now i just dont think the bank acount can handle many more outlays. looks like i've just missed out on racing it this season. Even with everything going smoothly from here im just about to have the car operational for winter.
most important matter at hand is i just have a feeling im going to be needing a few sets of tires... any1 have 17" tires with ~50% tread left? probably be safer to bang stockies on the back, but that just screams "up to no good". that and fuel, the car was doing 200km/40L on the "run in" tune i had, running so rich... i dont expect economy to be much better with boost as an option...
saw the car 2 day and it sounds like sex....loud abusive violent sex.
i think this thread needs a title change
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saw the car 2 day and it sounds like sex....loud abusive violent sex.
i think this thread needs a title change
4 hours to change the oil? id say we made good time!
hopefully it sounds a little tidier 2moro. fingers crossed i dont get fingered 2moro when the tune happens.
also called the guy who i got the bottom end off, i thought he had done a couple of hundred kms... turns out he did 1000 run in kms... haha, i didnt really need to do all those kms again, what a hassle.
dropped the oil, filled it up, oh and jack i measured the old oil as i poured it back into various bottles i found around the house/in the recycling, looks like it had 7-8L of oil in it...
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for those of you who i havent told already...
car went 405rwhp @20psi on ovaboosts dyno on friday.
its a safe tune, mick at ovaboost did a great job, he's got it getting richer from about 5k onwards to make sure it doesnt lean out. i feel pretty confident the car can handle a fair bit of abuse with the tune its got. sure i spose some more power could be easily gotten out of it by not fattning it up at the end with a few more psi. but im pretty comfortable that for the road (and my 235s) 400rwhp is enough for now haha. mick also stressed the fact that ovaboosts dyno reads "low" compared to other shops who have happy dynos, i honestly didnt care too much wha the exact number was. the end power figure is just a box thats ticked, its of no real consequence, what is however is how it goes, it really boogies.
car drives perfect once its warm, can cruise it and all you can hear is the drone of the exhaust. the brakes are fantastic (thanks to vhr32 for his stuff) and the car feels quite planted onthe road at all times.
ill go for more power probably next season, 400rwhp is all i want to drive on the street, and ill go for 30+ psi on race fuel in around christmas time i reckon.
seems like the wastegate has a 1.5bar spring in it, lowest boost i can run is 17psi (~360rwhp available) bit of a shock to the plans of cruising it on 10psi, just means ill be more careful as i learn how it behaves.
on a side note it blew a line off the waste gate on one power run, graph shot through the 400+rwhp mark without any sign of slowing at around 5000 rpm. motor didnt miss a beat. while this means nothing now, its evident that the ignition is up to the task, and it was a hint of what 30psi would be like on a better fuel.
Fantastic News Jack. I told you that Mick at Ovaboost is the man with all the info and the man to do tunes on VL's. He has never put a foot wrong with many of my vl's and many of my mates high performance vl's also.
Your car would be so fun to drive. Mine was very fun to drive on the street with that power. And its very nice to know that how I drove mine on the street, is exactly the same power that I used to run the 10.80 except bolted on slicks and used trans brake off line.
Just on a side note. Whether low boost is 6psi or 18psi. Boost only builds with the depressing of the gas pedal. The less you press it, the less boost it builds, the more you press, the more boost builds. Why I say it like this is because on my Berlina Turbo I just sold, I had no low or high boost switch. Its all to do with the accelerator. Don't put alot of emphasis on low and high boost mate. Press accelerator and watch boost gauge mate and stop pressing once the level you want is reached.
My VL had a blow off valve on the intercooler line. It was an old way and some would say crude way of bleeding off boost, but very very effective. I had 21-22psi on tap anytime I wanted. It was how Nizpro used to do it. I just used the accelerator as the boost controller mate.
Oh, to let you know regarding suspension, well there is no need to throw more money at your car mate with coilovers. Just go and buy equivalent FE2 springs like pedders, or lovells. See Colin at Malaga Springs and Suspensions, or Brad at WA Suspensions.
With regards to shockies, just get some equivalent FE2 ones also. My VL handled fine on the street. My vl had FE2 Springs and Shocks all round and that was great for street and track and thats how I ran my 10sec quarter. I used to drive to the track, change tyres and race. Although vl's are not the best cornering car in the world, but who is going to try to corner fast with 400rwhp only a throttle blip away and a lamp post creeping into your car. If you can get hydraulic shocks at the rear, then this is even better. I bought some $20 brand new ones off ebay for the rear and the springs cost $100 from Holden back 4 years ago.
Talk to Graham down here about suspension. He will say exactly the same mate. Give him a call.
If you need any other info mate, just let me know.
Regards
Matt
PS: Im in a hurry and didn't proof read. Hope it made sense.
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