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Hi guys, im looking to get some id2000's and have done some research and found alot of people are haveing issues with them blocking up when using ethanol based fuels.
So who runs them and what fuel are you using or intending to use? have you had any problems?
Also is the only difference between the bosch ones and the id ones, that the id's are flow tested to within 1% of each other?
Cheers for any help. Donny
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ive got i.d2000cc running on united e85.
no problems.
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How long have they been in for?
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6 months.....car only gets driven on weekends.
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E85 no issues.
I would suggest poor filtration rather than injector issue.
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I had a dud injector with id1000's, it was fine except for idle..
Other than that they have been fine with united e85 for the last 6 months.
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I have them as does Andy psi747, both been in since last August on drum e85 with no issues. I made sure to have them cleaned as soon as I pulled them out to change my engine setup abit. I know of a few people that have had problems with them after they sit for extended periods without being cleaned.
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^^^ This man knows.
We have sold probably 50 sets of the Bosch ev14 injectors from 550cc to 2200cc
I have seen 3 sets fail. Each set was from sitting for extended periods and exposed to oxygen after they had been used in ethanol/methanol.
Bosch will not warranty there 2200cc injectors as they are not rated for any fluid.
Leave them in and have no problems. If you take them out flush/soak in WD/rp7 etc.
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26-03-13, 10:22 GMT+10#10 Yep
I had a set get ****ed after I didn't clean them when I pulled them out
Best thing to do if your pulling them out for a long period is run normal fuel threw them 1st or as Sean said, clean them straight away
Very expensive exercise! My true id2000s where stuffed so I went n bought some Bosch 1s
From what I've read to is that the id2000 don't like oxygenated fuels
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26-03-13, 14:01 GMT+10#11 Running normal ulp isn't really a solution, that does the same
As ethanol. Get them cleaned, then put them in a ziplock bag! And take time when installing the injecter, it's pretty easy to damage the orings!
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26-03-13, 21:42 GMT+10#12 just picked up a set tonight, all good info for the future, thanks
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27-03-13, 16:33 GMT+10#13 I have a set of ev14's 750cc, i took them out 6 weeks ago only run on 98, and put them straight in a ziplock bag and then in a container aswell , I fitted them back in motor last week...you've all made me paranoid now and i am going to rip them out and get them cleaned...lol
cheers
darren
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19-02-15, 23:12 GMT+10#14 I'd 2000s having a leaning out issue on 25 psi after done a shell swap with previosly e85 and now leaning out.reasons ?
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20-02-15, 08:28 GMT+10#15 i wouldn't use these injectors, have been many failures I have heard about, get the siemens 2433cc injectors
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20-02-15, 11:09 GMT+10#16 Those siemens are too big on the street for most cars. There are some good write ups as to why.
http://insightmotorsports.com.au/pro...000-163-0.html (http://insightmotorsports.com.au/products/ID2000-163-0.html)
"Looking at the graph, there are several things here worth noting. The first is the flow. The Siemens Deka flows 2390cc/min and the ID2000 flows 2224cc/min which explains the higher flow values at the right side of the graph.
Looking at the Siemens Deka, you can see that the flow deviates sharply from linearity starting at 1.45 milliseconds where the flow is 192cc/min. While this will get the job done on a 500+ cubic inch Chevy big block, we're going to be well into the "ugly" range of the injector on a smaller engine. If using the Siemens Deka at these lower pulse widths, we would be dealing with the same problems that we have with the Bosch1600s, but to a lesser degree.
The ID2000 extends cleanly down to 1.07 milliseconds and 88cc/min which is less than half the flow of the Siemens Deka. Therefore the ID2000 will certainly give us the extension needed for smaller displacement motors".
I ditched my injector filters and they are spot on, and very streetable off boost and when idleing around.
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20-02-15, 15:30 GMT+10#17 As with most things it all comes down to the tuner, I have seen cars with 1000cc or 1200cc run and drive like crap
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22-02-15, 13:42 GMT+10#18 Anymore bad experience's?
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24-02-15, 02:08 GMT+10#19 I ended up having an issue that came down to one of these failing, i switched to siemens 2433's at the start of 2014 and have not had an issue with them.
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