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Rwc Question Efi 5ltr in Vl

Started by Wkd_Vl · 10 June 2012 · 4 replies

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Wkd_VlArchived member
hey guys just wanna get some info about the current engine conversion my car is org vl 6 5sp and ive got a efi 5ltr in it at the moment ive heard that if the car is plated a 6 you have to keep the 6 in it is this true so if i got pulled over and the cop knew its was org a 6 would i have to remove the engine and go back to a 6 ??? i just wanna save my self some hassle before i go through all this for nothing
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mulkersArchived member
Not if you have the emmissions, suspension and brakes the same or better than the v8. If you are using a donor car (i.e. VN, VQ etc) just use the brakes, master cylinder, springs etc out of it. I have explained this before with the relevany links prooving you do not need engineers in other threads.
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RB30DEVLArchived member
No , that's not true because the HSV VL Walkinshaw was released with an EFI 5 litre V8, provided that a VL Commodore was factory fitted with the 304 c.i. engine , all you need to get done is a blue slip to say that the engine has been changed. All they really ask is that the v8 comply with the ADR37 , which is what the RB30 complies with anyway, that means that the engine must run on unleaded fuel and have the emission control gear fitted pertaining to that particular engine (i.e. - o2 sensors , catalytic converters, charcoal canister , etc), there's nothing on this website http://rvcs.dotars.gov.au/ , stating whether the engine must be either carby or EFI, only that it be made to run on unleaded fuel and fitted with the pollution gear pertaining to that era of vehicle, or if fitting into an older vehicle, the standards of the donor vehicle. I dont think however, you could fit a pre 2006 engine into a 2006 onwards model vehicle from October 1, AFAIK, they have been made to comply with Euro IIII emissions which is ADR79 and supercedes ADR37, unless you are talking about engines such as the LS2 & alloytec V6 which were made to comply with these tougher emission standards prior to this date ,strangely enough, there's nothing stating that you can't use a Euro I engine (1992 - 1996) or Euro II (1996- 2000) where a Euro III engine is used because they still come under ADR37 rules. Ford had to buy carbon trading points to get their Falcon six to pass Euro IIII emissions in the BF Falcon and are on the hunt for another six, or are they going to build their own like Holden did ? Ford had to buy
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GACArchived member
Ive had this argument with vic roads a million times and they keep telling me i need an engineers report because the car was a factory 6 cylinder car.No matter what i tell them they do not pass the car,i am a mechanic myself and the car meets all roadworthy and emission standards to date.
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mulkersArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by RB30DEVL [View Post] No , that's not true because the HSV VL Walkinshaw was released with an EFI 5 litre V8, provided that a VL Commodore was factory fitted with the 304 c.i. engine , all you need to get done is a blue slip to say that the engine has been changed. All they really ask is that the v8 comply with the ADR37 , which is what the RB30 complies with anyway, that means that the engine must run on unleaded fuel and have the emission control gear fitted pertaining to that particular engine (i.e. - o2 sensors , catalytic converters, charcoal canister , etc), there's nothing on this website http://rvcs.dotars.gov.au/ , stating whether the engine must be either carby or EFI, only that it be made to run on unleaded fuel and fitted with the pollution gear pertaining to that era of vehicle, or if fitting into an older vehicle, the standards of the donor vehicle. I dont think however, you could fit a pre 2006 engine into a 2006 onwards model vehicle from October 1, AFAIK, they have been made to comply with Euro IIII emissions which is ADR79 and supercedes ADR37, unless you are talking about engines such as the LS2 & alloytec V6 which were made to comply with these tougher emission standards prior to this date ,strangely enough, there's nothing stating that you can't use a Euro I engine (1992 - 1996) or Euro II (1996- 2000) where a Euro III engine is used because they still come under ADR37 rules. Ford had to buy carbon trading points to get their Falcon six to pass Euro IIII emissions in the BF Falcon and are on the hunt for another six, or are they going to build their own like Holden did ? Ford had to buy Thats not how it works in victoria. If you have a Group A engine, and you dont have the CORRECT emmissions set up, EPA will bend you over a barrel. For instance, there are 3 different types of charcoal cannisters for VLs (afaik) If you 'convert' your car, and you dont have the correct gear, then you do not meet the requirments. EPA doesnt give a **** if it complies with the ADR or not, as that is not the issue, it still does not meet roadworthy or EPA requirements. There are also other things that the v8's have that the RB30s dont, like EGR. Quote: Originally Posted by mulkers [View Post] Why? you are puttin a holden 5 litre into a car that came out with a holden 5 lt. As long as emmissions meet the later spec(VN-VT, depending on donor car), then it meets the vicroads guidelines http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/...ifications.htm (http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Registration/PermitsModificationsAndDefects/Modifications/NotifyingVicRoadsOfChangesAndModifications.htm) The stuff you are saying about Euro 4 doesnt mean anything unless you're a company paying $0000's to comply a vehicle for ADR. (yes this is different to meeting RWC and EPA requirements.
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