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Does anyone have a copy of official documentation "ie.. service manual, brochure" that states that a vl with an rb30et has a t3 turbo as standard.
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prety sure its in the workshop manuals
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any of them will so im prety sure
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Originally Posted by VLWAGONIT
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prety sure its in the workshop manuals
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any of them will so im prety sure
i thought so too but it wasnt in mine.
If someone has it, can you please post it up for me?
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Gregorys manual has the whole specs of it i think?
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You knew it had a garrett t3 from factory , everyone does but heres what your after:
Four models of 3.0 L RB30 were produced from 1985 - 1991:
RB30S - carburetted single-cam
RB30E VL Commodore - fuel-injected single-cam (114 kW at 5,200 rpm, 247 N�m (25.2 kgf�m) at 3,600 rpm)
RB30E R31 Skyline - fuel-injected single-cam (117 kW at 5,200 rpm, 252 N�m (25.2 kgf�m) at 3,600 rpm)
RB30ET VL Commodore - fuel-injected single-cam turbo (150 kW at 5,600 rpm, 296 N�m at 3,200 rpm)
This motor was produced for use in the Skylines, Patrols and rights bought by Holden because the Holden 202 (3.3 L) powering the Holden Commodore could no longer satisfy tightening emissions requirements, and with all new cars required to run on unleaded petrol by 1986 a quick replacement was needed. Nissan Motor Co. sold the RB30E to Holden for the VL Commodore. Because the radiator is fitted lower in relation to the engine in the VL, there is an increased likelihood of air locks forming in the (alloy) cylinder head, causing this to overheat and warp. This was less likely in the R31 Skyline as the radiator is mounted higher.[5] The engine proved to be very reliable apart from this issue. The RB30S was found in some Middle Eastern R31 Skylines and in some Nissan Patrols. The RB30E was found in R31 Skylines and VL Commodores in Australia as well as in South African R31 Skylines (with 126 kW at 5,000 rpm and 260 Nm at 3,500 rpm)
The turbocharged RB30ET (producing 150 kW) was found only in the VL Commodore (available in all models) and consisted of a lower compression RB30E bottom end, more powerful oil pump, T3 Garrett turbocharger, 250 cc injectors and a different intake manifold. The motor itself is still popular today (albeit in highly modified form) on the Australian Drag Racing circuit.
Nissan Special Vehicles Division Australia produced two limited models of R31 Skylines, the GTS1 and GTS2. These contained slightly more powerful RB30E engines, containing longer opening duration cams and better flowing exhausts.
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yeah prety sure its in the max elories on aswell (sp?)
was that taken from wikipedia nick?
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yeah prety sure its in the max elories on aswell (sp?)
was that taken from wikipedia nick?
yeah under RB series motors
Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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Originally Posted by <NICK>
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You knew it had a garrett t3 from factory , everyone does but heres what your after:
Four models of 3.0 L RB30 were produced from 1985 - 1991:
RB30S - carburetted single-cam
RB30E VL Commodore - fuel-injected single-cam (114 kW at 5,200 rpm, 247 N�m (25.2 kgf�m) at 3,600 rpm)
RB30E R31 Skyline - fuel-injected single-cam (117 kW at 5,200 rpm, 252 N�m (25.2 kgf�m) at 3,600 rpm)
RB30ET VL Commodore - fuel-injected single-cam turbo (150 kW at 5,600 rpm, 296 N�m at 3,200 rpm)
This motor was produced for use in the Skylines, Patrols and rights bought by Holden because the Holden 202 (3.3 L) powering the Holden Commodore could no longer satisfy tightening emissions requirements, and with all new cars required to run on unleaded petrol by 1986 a quick replacement was needed. Nissan Motor Co. sold the RB30E to Holden for the VL Commodore. Because the radiator is fitted lower in relation to the engine in the VL, there is an increased likelihood of air locks forming in the (alloy) cylinder head, causing this to overheat and warp. This was less likely in the R31 Skyline as the radiator is mounted higher.[5] The engine proved to be very reliable apart from this issue. The RB30S was found in some Middle Eastern R31 Skylines and in some Nissan Patrols. The RB30E was found in R31 Skylines and VL Commodores in Australia as well as in South African R31 Skylines (with 126 kW at 5,000 rpm and 260 Nm at 3,500 rpm)
The turbocharged RB30ET (producing 150 kW) was found only in the VL Commodore (available in all models) and consisted of a lower compression RB30E bottom end, more powerful oil pump, T3 Garrett turbocharger, 250 cc injectors and a different intake manifold. The motor itself is still popular today (albeit in highly modified form) on the Australian Drag Racing circuit.
Nissan Special Vehicles Division Australia produced two limited models of R31 Skylines, the GTS1 and GTS2. These contained slightly more powerful RB30E engines, containing longer opening duration cams and better flowing exhausts.
unfortunately wiki is not official documentation
Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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what do u acctualy need it for out of intrest?
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20-03-12, 15:00 GMT+10#10 Quote:
Originally Posted by VLWAGONIT
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what do u acctualy need it for out of intrest?
Trying to pass a full EPA test on LPG.
GT3540 is technically a t3 by garrett.
Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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20-03-12, 15:04 GMT+10#11 did the do you for noise and emmisions ?
massive headaches when dealing with epa , what does knowing the official statement regarding the t3 have to do with the epa though?
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20-03-12, 15:10 GMT+10#12 ah fair enough. i guess its no point asking holden or nissan anymore?
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20-03-12, 15:13 GMT+10#13 Quote:
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did the do you for noise and emmisions ?
massive headaches when dealing with epa , what does knowing the official statement regarding the t3 have to do with the epa though?
it was at the knox cruise.
The EPA have been giving me advice as i go, so they actually seem pretty helpful. But your right it is a massive head ache.
the turbo needs to be a replacement for the factory unit for the full emmisions test.
If i can show an official document showing that vl's came out with a garrett t3 turbo, i should technically be able to do the test with the gt3540 on. However i still need to pass the test with the gt3540.
There is a chance that it might pass on LPG as LPG has around 40-60% lower emmisions than petrol (So I have quite a large margin). I still need to meet the criteria for each gas.
(This is for a 4 gas analyser test CO,HC,NO2&CO2)
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20-03-12, 15:32 GMT+10#14 you might need to find a copy of this
http://www.pitstop.net.au/view/produ...uery/plu/6050/ (http://www.pitstop.net.au/view/products/page/query/plu/6050/)
Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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20-03-12, 16:02 GMT+10#15 Quote:
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Trying to pass a full EPA test on LPG.
GT3540 is technically a t3 by garrett.
And the EPA are saying that it's not? I'm not sure what you're getting it?
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20-03-12, 16:11 GMT+10#16 Th original turbo was a TO3 wasnt it? T3 is a flange/footprint size..
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20-03-12, 16:28 GMT+10#17 Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbro
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it was at the knox cruise.
The EPA have been giving me advice as i go, so they actually seem pretty helpful. But your right it is a massive head ache.
the turbo needs to be a replacement for the factory unit for the full emmisions test.
If i can show an official document showing that vl's came out with a garrett t3 turbo, i should technically be able to do the test with the gt3540 on. However i still need to pass the test with the gt3540.
There is a chance that it might pass on LPG as LPG has around 40-60% lower emmisions than petrol (So I have quite a large margin). I still need to meet the criteria for each gas.
(This is for a 4 gas analyser test CO,HC,NO2&CO2)
i got done for EPA a few months back all i did was put a standard exhuast on and put a few hoses on here and there but im dummied them in , as they dont check that much into detail
is your test at Hoppers crossing or did they send you somewhere else
i cant see them allowing the 35/40 tho , regardless its a different turbo and they will probs make you put on the standard unit
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20-03-12, 17:10 GMT+10#18 I think this is what your looking for
Same book as pictured above, it has 50 odd pages of info just on the Turbo Unit itself...
Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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20-03-12, 17:18 GMT+10#19 Holden Commodore Holden Calais VL Series - Service Manual Supplement Volume No. 6
(3.0ET Turbocharged Engine and Associated Components)
Page 6C-48
4. Specifications
Make ...................................... Garret
Model ..................................... T3
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Edit...
Beaten.. lol
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20-03-12, 18:31 GMT+10#20 Quote:
Originally Posted by VL-Dan
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I think this is what your looking for
Same book as pictured above, it has 50 odd pages of info just on the Turbo Unit itself...
THANX MATE, THATS EXACTLY WHAT IM AFTER.
Ill let everyone know how i go.
Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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