http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8267924 A disqualified driver who has already lost his car under anti-hoon laws has now had his girlfriend's car impounded after police found him asleep at traffic lights in Melbourne. Police discovered the 26-year-old Clayton South man napping behind the wheel in Heatherton Road, Moorabbin, about 8.20am on Friday. His girlfriend's car will now be the first car impounded for 30 days under tougher anti-hoon laws, up from the 48 hours previously imposed. Under the new laws, which kicked in on Friday, those repeatedly caught driving while unlicensed or under the influence of drink or drugs can now also face impoundment. The same also applies to drivers with too many passengers in their vehicle. The most serious road offences covered under the legislation could end up in court and face an additional three months of impoundment. Road Policing Acting Superintendent Stuart McGregor said the new laws served as a significant deterrent to dangerous drivers. "This should serve as a warning to anyone else who thinks they might be able to behave this way on our roads. You simply won't get away with it," he said. "We won't be tolerating anyone who drives at excessive speed, in a dangerous manner or while drug or alcohol affected. We will be immediately removing them from our roads."

Just wait for the anti hoon law brigade to have whinge that he wasn't driving LOL Dazz

**** that's a bit heavy for having a sneaky Power nap like the advertiseing tells us to do if we are a little tyred..

Quote: Originally Posted by aus880 [View Post] "This should serve as a warning to anyone else who thinks they might be able to behave this way on our roads. You simply won't get away with it," he said. I completely agree, keep sleeping at the wheel to the track... ...Or buy a race car bed.

guys already working on his court appearance defence lol so where is all the revenue from these laws going?

let me get this straight if you get caught driving with a suspended licence your car will get inpounded ?

^yes, because its hooning

30 days is abit steep , id hate to see the inpound cost for 30days , anyway just cruise and you should be good, only good thing out of this is drink drivers lose there cars for 30days (Finally) as they are the ones that kill more people on the roads ect.

These laws are so backwards. The people caught drink driving last night still have their cars and will probably get less of a penalty than this guy who fell asleep.

WTF is with that. that is far from "hooning" anything to do with a car now days is classed as hooning. I say its crap. yes if some idiot is doing circles in a public place or something they should loose there car but not for stupid crap like sleeping at the wheel or unlicensed etc. Its ridiculous and from what it looks like there taking to much advantage with this new law. It'll backfire in there face when theres lawsuits.

Miss gmh. Too true. Everything to do with cars is hooning. But I think it is fair that unlicensed or drunk/drugged drivers should get the same penalties just under a different classification. I see it as their tryin to stop all the car enthusiasts by makin it too hard to have a nice car and be a respectful driver. Just can't get my head all the way around this stuff

[/COLOR] Quote: Originally Posted by miss_gmh [View Post] WTF is with that. that is far from "hooning" anything to do with a car now days is classed as hooning. I say its crap. yes if some idiot is doing circles in a public place or something they should loose there car but not for stupid crap like sleeping at the wheel or unlicensed etc. Its ridiculous and from what it looks like there taking to much advantage with this new law. It'll backfire in there face when theres lawsuits. Stupid things??? are you serious

Quote: Originally Posted by bj42turbo [View Post] [/COLOR] Stupid things??? are you serious Was about to say the same thing. If you're unlicensed and caught driving you deserve EVERYTHING the law has to throw at you.

I still fail to understand why the girlfriend should be penalised for his actions.. this isnt how a legal system should work imo.

Quote: Originally Posted by Morgz [View Post] I still fail to understand why the girlfriend should be penalised for his actions.. this isnt how a legal system should work imo. She's partly to blame. She knew he had no license and still let him have the car.

They don't target the real criminals, they target the segment where they know have money and know they can continue to raise revenue with. That's all it's about. How much of these new funds raised will go into driver education, road infrastructure improvements or any other road related programs that will benefit the public? And things are only going to keep getting worse to the point where they will probably even begin implementing immediate confiscation of vehicles for first offences and at that point i'm afraid it will be the beginning of the end, people having nothing to lose will try to outrun police to save their vehicles and i think even with this immediate 30 day impoundment that we will begin to see people trying to make a break for it, trying to outrun the police. As above, I understand that he was at fault for his actions and i do not for one minute condone him for this but how that relates to hooning and what the legal grounds they took his vehicle for is beyond me.

^^ this idea that they'll 'have nothing to lose' and will therefore run has been suggested on here previously and is an assumption based on guesswork there's no evidence that would happen at all plus in NSW at least, if you do 'run' then you come under Skyes law which means prison anyone who does still 'run' is obviously an imbecile and should go to prison and never get a licence imho re the above driver he's prev been busted under what is termed or known as the hoon legislation (come up with a better name if you can or must) and he's being dealt with under that same legislation because he was disqualified under it and yet has kept driving some on here resent the 'hoon' label and react to the use of the term with anger. If you are genuinely worried that you may fall under it then sorry maybe you need to look at how you drive plus society views of your 'style' of driving and attitude towards driving esp since it's a democracy where majority rules and not just one hoon driver always thinking he/she's in the right

Where's the evidence to suggest that they won't try to outrun police? Your assumption is also guesswork thinking that these "hoons" will merely stop after being caught knowing the full consequences of their actions. I with my own eyes have seen many police chases on the Princes Highway... Have a look at what is happening in the community these days, for most people these cars are their pride and joy and will do anything necessary to keep them. I agree with you, anyone caught running should be jailed and have their licenses revoked for a very long time. The law is the law and it must be followed. I understand the man in question was previously charged with hoon related offences, but since when does driving unlicensed constitute hoon behaviour resulting in having your vehicle impounded? Or is it only a select few that will always be scrutinised? It seems being a hoon is far worse than being a paedophile these days.... I resent the term "hoon" with anger upon being tainted with the hoon brush. I am a car enthusiasts that has never done a thing wrong on the roads yet i still get pulled up and harassed. I don't mind penalising those at fault and those that continually break the law but give me a break, convicted killers and thieves get lesser sentences than hoons and they even get to keep their wheels! This is just a scheme to continually raise funds for the government. My anger is towards where the additional raised funds will be used? If it really is used it should at the very least be used to the following: -Driver education -Improved road infrastructure -Road safety campaigns Yes it is a democracy, a stupid one at that where hoons are bashed in the media, photos printed and names given yet paedophiles get to live in privacy and are on a protected register and when you try to expose them you put yourself in firing line for a jail sentence (Derryn Hinch).

1. pls give some examples of killers getting lesser sentences than hoons 2. Quote: Where's the evidence to suggest that they won't try to outrun police sorry but you made the claim so you're the one who should provide the evidence not ask for evidence to the contrary if hoons are stupid enough to 'run' then they'll end up in prison and that takes them off our roads for a while, bloody beauty as far as I'm concerned 3. Quote: Have a look at what is happening in the community these days, for most people these cars are their pride and joy and will do anything necessary to keep them maybe in your group of friends but mine have different priorities: family/house/job etc all of which far outweigh a car. Plus 'run' and you lose the liberty to see your family and also lose your job, it's simply a 'no brainer' except for complete fools who would still do it 4 Quote: but since when does driving unlicensed constitute hoon behaviour resulting in having your vehicle impounded? I'd say the guy broke the conditions set for his previous conviction under the hoon legislation, that's why. He agreed not to do certain things but broke the undertaking he gave to a court so suffers the consequences and is dealt with again under that law

Quote: Originally Posted by aus880 [View Post] 1. pls give some examples of killers getting lesser sentences than hoons 2. sorry but you made the claim so you're the one who should provide the evidence not ask for evidence to the contrary if hoons are stupid enough to 'run' then they'll end up in prison and that takes them off our roads for a while, bloody beauty as far as I'm concerned 3. maybe in your group of friends but mine have different priorities: family/house/job etc all of which far outweigh a car. Plus 'run' and you lose the liberty to see your family and also lose your job, it's simply a 'no brainer' except for complete fools who would still do it 4 I'd say the guy broke the conditions set for his previous conviction under the hoon legislation, that's why. He agreed not to do certain things but broke the undertaking he gave to a court so suffers the consequences and is dealt with again under that law 1. Wholly suspended sentences. It's in the newspapers everyday, people getting sentences that are not thoroughly justified enough. 2. You made a counter claim stating otherwise. So your argument also stems out to yourself in the exact same way. In which way will it all deviate? What's good for the goose isn't good for the gander? You've just told me if you make a claim, then back it, so then where is your evidence? I will try find the evidence from Los Angeles that is applicable to this point. 3. I have my set priorities but then there are others that have their own and there are some that will still try and run away and are willing to take the risk. Like i said, i've seen multiple police chases along a popular Melbourne hot spot where those that have escaped have bragged about it to mates. How many police pursuits have there been where the police have been unsuccessful in apprehending the "hoons" (no pun intended). Most of these people have no jobs and have nothing other than their cars. So please bear in mind not everyone is in the same boat here. Maybe you can afford the luxuries in life and have your priorities set, some may not and that does in no way constitute cheap shots towards these people. 4. You're making assumptions here regarding the conditions and outcomes of his court case. I thought the hoon laws and having your car impounded only related to the undertaking of specific hoon activity. Anyway, no one knows on what grounds the car was impounded (specific hoon activity). Russ what's worse, being a hoon or a paedophile? It seems the latter are more protected. Why? I don't for a single minute condone hoon activity, i completely resent and condemn it on the street, however with relation to my last post this is nothing but a money making scheme for the government to refill the coffers after years of poor economic decisions.... What proportion of funds will be reinvested back into driver education?