Howsit going I just went to go to a job interview but the wagon wont start. Awesome timing there ... I turned the key - heard fuel pump whine - went to start and the starter flicked over once and then heard that clicking sound as if battery was flat. I dont have anything to check the voltage but the battery has one of those voltage led indercators which is still bright as usaul. So, I tried starting again - heard fp whine then went to start and more clicking. Opened bonnet and heard nearly the same clicking sound coming from the battery (I think) Now nothing happens - no dash lights no nothing. Ive checked all the fuses in the engine bay but where are the others in cabin ? All I can find is the panel near the steering wheel but it just has some computer looking thing in there.. lol.. Also checked for a loose earth cable.. What else can I try ? thanks yall Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

The computer looking thingy is for an auto trans. Is the car in Park,neutral? Have you swapped the battery? Does the radio come on? The clicking is probably a relay, do you have an alarm?

cars a factory manual trans.. I havnt tried another battery but will do when I have a oppertunity. Ah yes there are a bunch of relays next to the battery.. no alarm either. Will check if radio comes on soon - will update. thanks mate EDIT: ok so now I have dash lights again and radio does light up but when I turned it on it only worked for 3 secs before I lost dash lights again. So - guess ill try another battery when someone comes over with one when ever that will be I dont know lol.. will try dig out volt meter SECOND EDIT: ok so I found a volt meter (first place I looked haa) and bat is measuring 12.7V

Check all your battery terminals are tight. Check the fat wire running from battery to starter motor - make sure the nut on the starter end is tight, and none of the wires on the starter are loose. So your car is definitely factory manual?

Get a multimeter on it id say the battery would be putting out enough current to light your led light up but not start the engine. it wont hurt to try jump starting it or charging the battery

Quote: Originally Posted by madrx3boy [View Post] Check all your battery terminals are tight. Check the fat wire running from battery to starter motor - make sure the nut on the starter end is tight, and none of the wires on the starter are loose. ok will do. thx Quote: Originally Posted by madrx3boy [View Post] So your car is definitely factory manual? Not so sure now. How can I check ? Quote: Originally Posted by 6 Shooter [View Post] Get a multimeter on it id say the battery would be putting out enough current to light your led light up but not start the engine. it wont hurt to try jump starting it or charging the battery Its 12.7V. And yeah the led is green which should mean normal. Then changes colour when getting down on V but I do agree with you. thx

If your running a computer under the dash, its not a factory manual.

guess AT is self explanatory.. can anyone tell from this? ---------- Post added 06-09-10 at 15:42 ---------- k just anwsered my own q.. http://www.calaisturbo.com.au/showthread.php?t=24924 says ML4 Automatic Transmission - 4 Speed with Clutch Converter wonder why someone would convert a granny wagon ... dont you need to cert auto to man change ? anyway back to the original issue I guess lol Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Yup factory auto. Check all the things I mentioned before, if that doesn't work, try this: Down by the battery, there is a couple of relays mounted onto the inner guard. You'll see one relay which has 2 purple wires going into it. (the other to wires going into it are light green from memory). Cut the 2 purple wires off from the relay, strip a bit of the insulation off, and join them together. Then see if the car starts.

i have a feeling its the battery although the battery has 12.7 v it could still be stuffed you need to do a load test on the battery take it to your local auto electrician and ask them if they can check it for you otherwise just chuck another battery in and see if it starts

if ite been converted to manual, check the plug that used to goto the auto in the engine bay, it should have 2 wires shorted for the inhibitor switch. that will stop it starting

^^that trick I explained is for the same thing Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

it may have 12.7 volts at rest but what is it under load? even poked batteries can still hold a surface charge. load test the battery, anything less than 9v with the load on and its junk.

thanks for all this info - I'll check the battery first and work from there Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

was the battery. I always thought if it had 12v + it would be sweet but no.. cheers for the help

well I am really confuzzled.. I threw the original battery back in to try roll start (as I dont have a new one yet) and thought I would try turning it over first and it started. I drove it to my mates workshop where they did a load test that came up fine. was still well in the 'green zone' of the meter. The alternators working normal and we checked for loose cables too

sounds like the battery terminals might of been dirty,if i ever have a fault like that,i turn headlights on full high beam get someone to try starting it if it winds slowly or clicks nothing happens and headlights stay bright starter curcuit usual at fault,if the headlights go really dim or go out battery curcuit at fault just a quick guide really just wondering are you MAGGS on D1nz forums

Check the lead going onto your alternator is tight, when mine came off I had power though the car for a bit then it would die. Took me for ever to find out what it eventually was. I heard small clicking sounds too, it was the lead sparking across.

Quote: Originally Posted by rb_inside [View Post] sounds like the battery terminals might of been dirty,if i ever have a fault like that,i turn headlights on full high beam get someone to try starting it if it winds slowly or clicks nothing happens and headlights stay bright starter curcuit usual at fault,if the headlights go really dim or go out battery curcuit at fault just a quick guide really just wondering are you MAGGS on D1nz forums Hey cheers for reply - terminals are clean as and so far the fault hasnt come back.. All the electrics are coming out end of october anyway.. yea im maggs thats my name mate. Quote: Originally Posted by WAGASM [View Post] Check the lead going onto your alternator is tight, when mine came off I had power though the car for a bit then it would die. Took me for ever to find out what it eventually was. I heard small clicking sounds too, it was the lead sparking across. hey cheers for that.. I think the clicking I heard was from the relays by the battery.. have checked for loose wires and Im stumped but as I said above - all the elecs are getting redone next month Some original photos have not been recovered yet.